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Old 11-06-2011, 07:51 PM
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the last line in the initial post on this thread is why i believe you only hold half at fault. you so often take that line. you consistently point fingers at one party and take them to task for their obstructionism, but almost never have criticism for the democrats. if that's not the case, great.

i think there needs to be a major overhaul, with as many officeholders getting voted out as possible. there's got to be a way to break the hold that lobbyists have, and how else to do that except vote out those who are on the take?
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:00 PM
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the last line in the initial post on this thread is why i believe you only hold half at fault. you so often take that line. you consistently point fingers at one party and take them to task for their obstructionism, but almost never have criticism for the democrats. if that's not the case, great.
Because the current Republican party is so very much more dangerous and useless than the current Democratic party. The GOP is an easy target, they are so appalling. Plenty to dislike from the Dems, but the GOP easily far outdoes them. They are not the same. You say both sides are obstructionist. Not equally, not at all. You say both sides are out for themselves. Not equally, no. The current Dems are like the GOP was 20 years ago.

Today 13,000 people surrounded the White House, protesting the tar sands Keystone pipeline. Didn't even see that on the evening news. The "mainstream", both the media and the politicos, are completely missing what is happening in this country. Their heads are in the sand. They have also lost control of the narrative. It's being told, live, via Twitter, Facebook and Youtube. And this political force, that will control the next election, isn't beholden to either Dems or Republicans.

I think the first major overhaul is to get money out of elections. Public funding, period. Limit donations to individuals for $100. Citizen's United was a disaster for this country. The Supreme Court will never reverse it, but the election laws can be changed. That will involve throwing out most of the politicians in Washington, yes, indeed.

Oh - and Congressmen and Senators can give up their lifetime of healthcare and guaranteed full pensions for serving just one term.
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