Jobs bill, infrastructure repair and bank 51-47 Senate vote

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

don't misunderstand riot. i have no great love for the reps, i think they're a sorry lot. where you and i differ is that you seem to think the dems are the opposite. i do not. i think they're a sorry lot as well.

The Dems are very different from the GOP, but not opposite or inherently good. Are the two parties the same? Not in the least. That's where we differ, I think. You think they are the same, I do not.

The former Republican party is gone. Jon Huntsman used to be a "conservative" Republican. All that's left is wholly-owned corporate lackey's and John Birch Society members. Michelle Bachmann? Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Seriously? That party is over and done. That's happened before in this country, political parties die and reform all the time.

The Dems? They have about 2/3 of wholly-owned corporate lackeys, indeed. But they are not trying to make this country run under their evangelical brand of religious law, they are not try to end multiple rights of Americans, not trying to steal the last social programs we have to give the money to their corporate masters, are not the Big Government ownership party of spend and spend recklessly.

you mentioned in the initial post that it was obstructionist per usual. was it a good bill? a good idea?

I think it (the Dems proposal from the Jobs Act) was an excellent deal. In fact, the Republican party, before 3 years ago, thought those things were an excellent deal, too, and supported those very same ideas.

Two-faced hypocrites, obstructing the President just for political reasons and not even being shy about saying it in public.

we have the not-so-super committee working to reduce debt,

They are a do-nothing joke, like our historically-notable do-nothing House. Nothing will come of that committee. It was just a way for the House and Senate to pawn off responsibility on others.

These guys don't realize it, but for many of them, their careers are alot more done and over than they think. They have zero pulse on what is happening out in this country. The Republican party has repeatedly voted against multiple ideas that are strongly supported by the majority of the American public. They are completely cocooned in Washington, completely clueless. It will be a rude awakening for most of them, to be unemployed next year.