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Old 11-03-2011, 09:29 PM
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Neither horse won the Travers. In fact, both horses were undefeated in sprints. Lion Heart broke a stakes record the only time he ran 7f.
Lion Heart was a better sprinter. He was a sales topper at FT Calder as well.

I was initally convinced that both Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex were MUCH better sprinters. Both of them could rate -- and in AA's case, could take back.

Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex, and Funny Cide all seemed much less likely to prefer a route VS a sprint ... but they had the seasoning and foundation and all that.

UM has the opposite look. He looks like the type of horse who should be much more successful routing than sprinting -- but he hasn't stayed healthy.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:36 PM
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Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex, and Funny Cide all seemed much less likely to prefer a route VS a sprint ... but they had the seasoning and foundation and all that
The worst handling was that of Funny Cide. He was awesome sprinting. I loved when he made his 4yo debut at 7f and romped at GP. Thought it was a sign of things to come. Nope. Then when it was evident he wasn't a force in two turn races anymore and pressure was put on him to cut him back, Tagg tossed him in the Met Mile, perhaps the toughest race for any horse to win be it sprinter or router. When he ran an even 5th, Tagg held up the performance and said, "See, he's not a sprinter".

I guess he was vindicated when later that year, the horse traded decisions with the great Newfoundland at 10f. Tagg went so far as to take the horse to Canada and Finger Lakes to get him victories rather than just shorten him up.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:43 PM
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The worst handling was that of Funny Cide. He was awesome sprinting. I loved when he made his 4yo debut at 7f and romped at GP. Thought it was a sign of things to come. Nope. Then when it was evident he wasn't a force in two turn races anymore and pressure was put on him to cut him back, Tagg tossed him in the Met Mile, perhaps the toughest race for any horse to win be it sprinter or router. When he ran an even 5th, Tagg held up the performance and said, "See, he's not a sprinter".

I guess he was vindicated when later that year, the horse traded decisions with the great Newfoundland at 10f. Tagg went so far as to take the horse to Canada and Finger Lakes to get him victories rather than just shorten him up.

Yep.

After Smarty Jones Southwest -- I was pretty sure 7 furlongs was him limit. A son of speed sprinter Elusive Quality who almost gets swallowed up late by the Smoke Glacken offspring Two Down Automatic. Smarty had that insane win going 7fs as a 2nd timer and his first two route performaces were very mediocre races.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:41 PM
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UM has the opposite look. He looks like the type of horse who should be much more successful routing than sprinting -- but he hasn't stayed healthy.
I think you can't say one way or the other because, like you said, he hasn't stayed healthy. The King's Bishop suggested he can sit off a very hot sprint pace and still fire. I would guess he's equal at both, up to a certain distance. Like Twirling Candy.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:54 PM
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I think you can't say one way or the other because, like you said, he hasn't stayed healthy. The King's Bishop suggested he can sit off a very hot sprint pace and still fire. I would guess he's equal at both, up to a certain distance. Like Twirling Candy.
His Beyer improved 12 points at 8fs because of how he relaxed early.

His Beyer improved like 12 or 14 points from 8fs to a two-turn 8.5f in the Juvenile last year because he didn't have to run as hard early and can relax.

Twirling Candy would get rank and do stupid stuff. I think UM is a lot more relaxed and efficent about rationing out his speed.
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