Occupy Wall Street live General Assembly meeting

[dellinger63]

This 'meeting' on Occupy Wall St. speaks volumes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...rotesters.html

[dellinger63]

The Occupy Wall Street volunteer kitchen staff launched a “counter” revolution yesterday -- because they’re angry about working 18-hour days to provide food for “professional homeless” people and ex-cons masquerading as protesters.

For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad.

They will also provide directions to local soup kitchens for the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders who have been descending on Zuccotti Park in increasing numbers every day.

Couple of questions come to mind.

Are the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders part of the 99% or 1%?

And are the Occupy Wall Streeters against providing food to vagrants, criminals and freeloaders or just THEIR food?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...hpa8MSYIL9xSDL

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Couple of questions come to mind.

Are the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders part of the 99% or 1%?

And are the Occupy Wall Streeters against providing food to vagrants, criminals and freeloaders or just THEIR food?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...hpa8MSYIL9xSDL

I think their opposition is toward the fact that they are working extremely hard and feel taken advantage of by some. Sorta like the reason behind the protests in the first place. Whenever you have a protest movement, you are bound to attract a certain amount of folks that are there purely for their own self interest (in this case free food and maybe a chance to steal from other protestors). Unfortunate on two levels, first because these folks take advantage of the situation and second because it give fuel to those looking for reasons to oppose the movement. Sorta like using the fact that a few welfare recipients take advantage of the system to cast anyone on welfare as a degenerate loser (you are familiar with that logic, aren't you?). In the 60's the Civil Rights Movement and later the Peace Movement saw the same thing...were there anarchists and communists who became involved in both movements...sure. But they were used by those in power to degrade entire movements....just ask J. Edgar Hoover.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Couple of questions come to mind.

Are the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders part of the 99% or 1%?

And are the Occupy Wall Streeters against providing food to vagrants, criminals and freeloaders or just THEIR food?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...hpa8MSYIL9xSDL

The article makes it clear, they are becoming the 98% for now. Not liking the bottom 1% either. Soon it will be "we are the 50%" followed shortly by the ever popular, "looking out for number 1". People are people.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The article makes it clear, they are becoming the 98% for now. Not liking the bottom 1% either. Soon it will be "we are the 50%" followed shortly by the ever popular, "looking out for number 1". People are people.

I wonder if there are any protestors who fall just outside the top 1%? I think it is comical for anyone making over say $250k a year to think they are united in an economic struggle with common folks.

[Riot]

Data survey of 1,619 respondents placed on occupywallst.org reveals the following about OWS supporters:

* 64.2% are younger than 34 years of age.
* One in three respondents is older than 35, one in five respondents is 45 and older.

* 7.9% of respondents have a high school degree or less.
* 92.1% of the sample has some college, a college degree, or a graduate degree.
* 27.4% have some college (but no degree), 35% have a college degree, 8.2% have some graduate school (but no degree), close to 21.5% have a graduate school degree.
* This is a highly educated sample.

* 26.7% of respondents were enrolled in school, 73.3% were not enrolled in school.

* 50.4% were employed full-time, an additional 20.4% were employed part-time.
* 13.1% of the sample are unemployed.

* 2.6% of respondents were retired, 1.3% disabled, 2.6% homemakers and 9.7% are full-time students.

* 47.5% of the sample earns less than $24,999 dollars a year and another quarter (24%) earn between $25,000 and $49,999 per year.
* 71.5% of the sample earns less than $50,000 per year.
* 15.4% of the sample earned between $50,000 and $74,999.
* The remainder 13% of the sample earn over $75,000 with close to 2% earning over $150,000 per year.

* 27.3% of respondents considered themselves Democrats, another 2.4% said they were Republican.
* A very large proportion of the sample, close to 70.3%, considered themselves Independents.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Data survey of 1,619 respondents placed on occupywallst.org reveals the following about OWS supporters:

* 64.2% are younger than 34 years of age.
* One in three respondents is older than 35, one in five respondents is 45 and older.

* 7.9% of respondents have a high school degree or less.
* 92.1% of the sample has some college, a college degree, or a graduate degree.
* 27.4% have some college (but no degree), 35% have a college degree, 8.2% have some graduate school (but no degree), close to 21.5% have a graduate school degree.
* This is a highly educated sample.

* 26.7% of respondents were enrolled in school, 73.3% were not enrolled in school.

* 50.4% were employed full-time, an additional 20.4% were employed part-time.
* 13.1% of the sample are unemployed.

* 2.6% of respondents were retired, 1.3% disabled, 2.6% homemakers and 9.7% are full-time students.

* 47.5% of the sample earns less than $24,999 dollars a year and another quarter (24%) earn between $25,000 and $49,999 per year.
* 71.5% of the sample earns less than $50,000 per year.
* 15.4% of the sample earned between $50,000 and $74,999.
* The remainder 13% of the sample earn over $75,000 with close to 2% earning over $150,000 per year.

* 27.3% of respondents considered themselves Democrats, another 2.4% said they were Republican.
* A very large proportion of the sample, close to 70.3%, considered themselves Independents.

what's your point? Are these the people who decided against feeding those 'lower' than them? Or are they just against their 'chefs'?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

what's your point? Are these the people who decided against feeding those 'lower' than them? Or are they just against their 'chefs'?

DaTruth wrote: I wonder if there are any protestors who fall just outside the top 1%? I think it is comical for anyone making over say $250k a year to think they are united in an economic struggle with common folks.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

I wonder if there are any protestors who fall just outside the top 1%? I think it is comical for anyone making over say $250k a year to think they are united in an economic struggle with common folks.

United? No. Struggle? absolutely. Two friends of mine. A divorced guy who lives (lived) in Manhattan, with two kids and an ex-wife to support is struggling more than most just to to maintain. What about another who makes his 250K+ as a Doctor and is therefore saddled by 300K+ in debt? Not to mention the insane insurance premiums he needs to pay in order to practice medicine. It is all relative really.
The numbers are different but the old saying "mo' money, mo' problems" was made up by successful poor people for a reason.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Couple of questions come to mind.

Are the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders part of the 99% or 1%?

And are the Occupy Wall Streeters against providing food to vagrants, criminals and freeloaders or just THEIR food?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...hpa8MSYIL9xSDL

Sigh ... the "usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad" crap was disproven as a lie. You know, by people who went to the park and saw what is being fed?

Dell, when are you going to open your eyes, and start making up your own mind? Instead of so willingly being told what to think without question?

The "mainstream media" has been overtly lying about OWS, especially what happened in Oakland, and you'd think a willing conspiracy theorist believer like you would pick up on that.

The mainstream corporate-owned media has been successfully circumvented by YouTube, Twitter and Facebook. The police attack against the Oakland protesters was shown live, thus when they lied in the press conferences there was already video out there proving them liars. They don't like being shown up, and shown as incompetent or liars.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh ... the "usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad" crap was disproven as a lie. You know, by people who went to the park and saw what is being fed?

Dell, when are you going to open your eyes, and start making up your own mind? Instead of so willingly being told what to think without question?

The "mainstream media" has been overtly lying about OWS, especially what happened in Oakland, and you'd think a willing conspiracy theorist believer like you would pick up on that.

The mainstream corporate-owned media has been successfully circumvented by YouTube, Twitter and Facebook. The police attack against the Oakland protesters was shown live, thus when they lied in the press conferences there was already video out there proving them liars. They don't like being shown up, and shown as incompetent or liars.

^^^^^^^^coming from a person who bases here judgment on muslim arranged marriages on a couple of grad students she knows.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

^^^^^^^^coming from a person who bases here judgment on muslim arranged marriages on a couple of grad students she knows.

Not "only", no, you're wrong (again), but you are only able to think in the simplest and most broad, black-white, simplistic terms, so that's not surprising.

Yes, I have talked to Muslims I know about their religion, and about arranged marriages.

Your base your judgment of arranged Muslim marriages has been obtained from right-wing hate sites and from what people tell you to think. Not a very strong base to criticize others

Don't forget, Dell: Carter sucks!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

This 'meeting' on Occupy Wall St. speaks volumes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...rotesters.html

Bump!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

This 'meeting' on Occupy Wall St. speaks volumes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...rotesters.html

sorry bumped my bump but this is too good

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

sorry bumped my bump but this is too good

Actually, it's easier to go to occupywallstreet.org, and read the "general meeting" minutes, to see what they really decided to do about the homeless and Wall Street types partaking of the free meals.

Geesh, Dell: instead of reading other people's opinions on OWS to tell you what to think, why don't you try to experience them yourself, and make up your own mind? Watch OWS live on the internet, read a blog from someone there, etc. It's a social phenomenon. You can learn about it without catching cooties or having to be definitively "pro" or "con" about it.

Try this: Occupy Wall Street daily roundup, Day 41 http://www.dailykos.com

In a move done to personally infuriate Dell, OccupyOakland dismantled the police barricades to the park, and turned them into art. The mayor has promised to keep the cops away, and she is meeting with the protesters. There is a $1000 reward for anyone who will ID the cop that shot Scott Olsen (who is now in fair condition, and will have surgery on his brain fracture in a few days, still on respirator)

And in a very, "Atlas Shrugged" moment, Occupy Oakland voted overwhelmingly for a general strike next Wednesday in Oakland, in retaliation against police violence.

[clyde]

Rita, is there a way you could Occupy NoAdvantage?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And in a very, "Atlas Shrugged" moment, Occupy Oakland voted overwhelmingly for a general strike next Wednesday in Oakland, in retaliation against police violence.

^^^^Very confused group whose protest started over jobs evolved into 99% v. 1% and now has come full circle and those with jobs are going to strike. That's Brilliant. If one doesn't have a job or is homeless do they strike by finding work and shelter or is it just another normal day for them.

Almost as much confusion as the Occupy NY group now complaining vagrants and 'the professional homeless are eating their food.

I now understand Riot's infacuation and lust for these 1/2 percenters.