Federal judge overturns Florida law requiring drug testing welfare recipients

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's sad watching people jump through hoops trying to justify their prejudices and hatred of welfare recipients.

It's sad that you feel numbers are now racist and full of hatred.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It's sad that you feel numbers are now racist and full of hatred.

It's sad you are posting numbers from 15 years ago. 1996 Congressional hearing testimony? Really? Maybe post something from the past 2-3 years? You know, after the financial crash, and the recession, that changed how many hundreds of thousands of people are on welfare?

What are you doing, if not trying to justify your dislike of those awful "welfare recipients"? You're desperate to try and find numbers that fulfill your bitter prejudices against "welfare recipients". Because otherwise, why would the numbers matter to you?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What are you doing, if not trying to justify your dislike of those awful "welfare recipients"? You're desperate to try and find numbers that fulfill your bitter prejudices against "welfare recipients". Because otherwise, why would the numbers matter to you?

My dislike for welfare has nothing to do with race and everything to do with self-reliance and fairness especially when one has been on longer than five years. In fact I'll go so far and say I dislike white welfare recipients more than black just because they have no prejudice/racism excuse, real or not, to get themselves out.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's sad you are posting numbers from 15 years ago. 1996 Congressional hearing testimony? Really? Maybe post something from the past 2-3 years? You know, after the financial crash, and the recession, that changed how many hundreds of thousands of people are on welfare??

Just to be clear again I came up with the fact African Americans are five times as likely to be on welfare by using YOUR source that gave me the 38% v. 37% and then 2010 census numbers for population breakdown according to race.

[somerfrost]

As usual, the war of statistics...you either are a person who feels people come first (before political ideology, sound bites from one side or the other, and greed) or you don't. The "what's mine is mine and if I think you might take even a minute piece of that causes me to hate you" philosophy may be satisfying in the short run, but what goes around comes around and in these uncertain days, to quote Dylan, "the first one now will later be last". Look down upon the disadvantaged, the poor and the needy but don't forget to occasionally look in the mirror..."there but for the grace of God..."

[Riot]

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Just to be clear again I came up with the fact African Americans are five times as likely to be on welfare by using YOUR source that gave me the 38% v. 37% .

I don't see that in the source I gave. Cut and paste the applicable paragraph, and web link, please.

The myth of the "welfare queen" ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_queen

Rick Scott, president of a medical services company who had to pay 1.7 billion in fraud and damages for Medicare fraud, was somehow then elected Governor of Florida, a state filled with Medicare recipients.

Go figure that one, huh?

One of the first things Scott does, is accuse "welfare queens" of being drug addicts (even though we're in a recession and we have the highest unemployment since the depression), and he orders that anyone applying for assistance has to take and pay for their own drug test. Oh - by the way, his company of Florida clinics specializes in doing drug tests (he put that company in his wife's name when he was elected Governor).

The result? Less than 2% of assistance seekers even turn up positive for drugs, Florida is now out multiple thousands per month to pay for the unneeded drug tests (out of a decreased state budget to start with), Gov. Rick Scott's drug testing clinics are making thousands a month - until a Federal Judge puts a kabosh on the whole damn scam by pointing out there is no evidence "welfare recipients are drug abusers".

And people wonder why Occupy Wall Street exists.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I don't see that in the source I gave. Cut and paste the applicable paragraph, and web link, please.
.

Here ya go

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White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Here ya go

Thanks. As pointed out, it's true that the majority of welfare recipients are not black. Are they?

Now, your math ... I suggest you use the same years census data. Not reaching for different data

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Thanks. As pointed out, it's true that the majority of welfare recipients are not black. Are they?

Now, your math ... I suggest you use the same years census data. Not reaching for different data

I took your suggestion and went back and did the numbers using both the 1990 and 2000 census stats (http://www.census.gov/prod/3/98pubs/p23-194.pdf page 14) and back then an African American was six times as likely as a white person, to be on welfare. So we've come a long way.

And true the majority of welfare recipients are white if that makes you feel better.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Just to be clear again I came up with the fact African Americans are five times as likely to be on welfare by using YOUR source that gave me the 38% v. 37% and then 2010 census numbers for population breakdown according to race.

What does YOUR source say about Obama Care for the muff?

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by clyde

What does YOUR source say about Obama Care for the muff?

As long as that muff ain't making no money, I say, give that muff a check!!!!! Free money for all lazy muffs. (We all know, however, that muffs are gettin paid)

[clyde]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

As long as that muff ain't making no money, I say, give that muff a check!!!!! Free money for all lazy muffs. (We all know, however, that muffs are gettin paid)

snarf!!



!!!!OOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It's sad that you feel numbers are now racist and full of hatred.

I didn't say racist, Dell. I said "prejudiced" and "hatred". You know, two words that have completely different meanings than "racist"?