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Old 10-20-2011, 09:35 AM
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it would be their 'right'?? lol i don't view it as a right at all.
If the women choose to sit in the back then yes that is their right. If Rosa Parks Horowitz wants to sit in the front then that too is her right and the men will have to control themselves.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:46 AM
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that's my point, they're not free to choose. it's forced on them based on bs 'beliefs'. hell of a way to justify discrimination, with old fairy tales.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:56 AM
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Haven't spent much time in these communities huh?

It is really something, my wife's hometown is right next door to Lakewood NJ which is the biggest Hasidim community in NJ. It is quite an interesting place.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:11 AM
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that's my point, they're not free to choose. it's forced on them based on bs 'beliefs'. hell of a way to justify discrimination, with old fairy tales.
I tend to think their freedom to choose their beliefs (BS or not) outweigh their freedom to choose a seat.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:23 AM
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I tend to think their freedom to choose their beliefs (BS or not) outweigh their freedom to choose a seat.
i don't. people have a right to believe in invisible pink unicorns or flying spagetti monsters. they don't have a right to discriminate, regardless of what justification they use.

but i'll remember you said that the next time a muslim discussion starts, and you come up with a different opinion than the one above!
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:39 AM
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i don't. people have a right to believe in invisible pink unicorns or flying spagetti monsters. they don't have a right to discriminate, regardless of what justification they use.

but i'll remember you said that the next time a muslim discussion starts, and you come up with a different opinion than the one above!
You painted yourself into a corner there Dell, using that logic, Islamic fathers would have a "right" to kill their daughters.
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You painted yourself into a corner there Dell, using that logic, Islamic fathers would have a "right" to kill their daughters.


Yea sitting in the back of a bus is the same as being killed.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:51 AM
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Yea sitting in the back of a bus is the same as being killed.
No but justifying one group's abuse of women on the grounds of religious freedom and not another's is inconsistent. So you are saying it's a matter of degree? Some abuses are ok and some not? Who makes that determination?
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:42 AM
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but i'll remember you said that the next time a muslim discussion starts, and you come up with a different opinion than the one above!

When they start beating and killing them for sitting in the front, in the name of honor you'll hear me going off on them as strong as I do for the muslims presently engaged in this behavior.

Until the women seated in back decide they want to sit in the front their rights have not been violated.
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