aren't we in the 21st century??

dellinger63 · #1 10-20-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44970711...ew_york_times/ i agree with one of the comments at the bottom of the article, if your religion includes such ridiculous bs, you should lose your tax status.
oh, but that would pretty much affect every religion, wouldn't it?

Religions should all pay taxes with charitable work/costs available as a write off. Like racetracks there are far too many churches.

In this case the city has two choices available, 1) to demand women and men sit together or 2) pull their franchise agreement.

The inevitable result of doing nothing will be a couple of big, fat civil rights suits with the city as a co-defendant and the one with deep pockets.

The company could operate a private bus with women in the back and that would be their right.

MMmmm franchised public bus routes. What a great idea!

Danzig · #2 10-20-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Religions should all pay taxes with charitable work/costs available as a write off. Like racetracks there are far too many churches.

In this case the city has two choices available, 1) to demand women and men sit together or 2) pull their franchise agreement.

The inevitable result of doing nothing will be a couple of big, fat civil rights suits with the city as a co-defendant and the one with deep pockets.

The company could operate a private bus with women in the back and that would be their right. MMmmm franchised public bus routes. What a great idea!

it would be their 'right'?? lol i don't view it as a right at all.

i didn't realize men had such issues with seeing women. exactly what will happen if women aren't out of sight i wonder? damn men, so uncontrollable!

tsk tsk

dellinger63 · #3 10-20-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it would be their 'right'?? lol i don't view it as a right at all.

If the women choose to sit in the back then yes that is their right. If Rosa Parks Horowitz wants to sit in the front then that too is her right and the men will have to control themselves.

Danzig · #4 10-20-2011, 10:46 AM

that's my point, they're not free to choose. it's forced on them based on bs 'beliefs'. hell of a way to justify discrimination, with old fairy tales.

Clip-Clop · #5 10-20-2011, 10:56 AM

Haven't spent much time in these communities huh?

It is really something, my wife's hometown is right next door to Lakewood NJ which is the biggest Hasidim community in NJ. It is quite an interesting place.

dellinger63 · #6 10-20-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

that's my point, they're not free to choose. it's forced on them based on bs 'beliefs'. hell of a way to justify discrimination, with old fairy tales.

I tend to think their freedom to choose their beliefs (BS or not) outweigh their freedom to choose a seat.

Danzig · #7 10-20-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I tend to think their freedom to choose their beliefs (BS or not) outweigh their freedom to choose a seat.

i don't. people have a right to believe in invisible pink unicorns or flying spagetti monsters. they don't have a right to discriminate, regardless of what justification they use.

but i'll remember you said that the next time a muslim discussion starts, and you come up with a different opinion than the one above!

somerfrost · #8 10-20-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't. people have a right to believe in invisible pink unicorns or flying spagetti monsters. they don't have a right to discriminate, regardless of what justification they use.

but i'll remember you said that the next time a muslim discussion starts, and you come up with a different opinion than the one above!

You painted yourself into a corner there Dell, using that logic, Islamic fathers would have a "right" to kill their daughters.

dellinger63 · #9 10-20-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

but i'll remember you said that the next time a muslim discussion starts, and you come up with a different opinion than the one above!

When they start beating and killing them for sitting in the front, in the name of honor you'll hear me going off on them as strong as I do for the muslims presently engaged in this behavior.

Until the women seated in back decide they want to sit in the front their rights have not been violated.