BC Classic Notes: Gio Ponti (Mile), Await/Dawn (Turf)

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

She will get drowned if she runs in the Classic.

Could you expand on your reasoning? I thought she proved herself well against Flat Out in the Woodward.

Not saying she will win but I don't see her drowning either.

Paul

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Could you expand on your reasoning? I thought she proved herself well against Flat Out in the Woodward.

Not saying she will win but I don't see her drowning either.

Paul

Flat Out isn't much.

I think she'd have problems also keeping in touch with the field. Pace wise.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Flat Out isn't much.

I think she'd have problems also keeping in touch with the field. Pace wise.

Flat Out could win the Classic.

This just feels like the wrong race for Havre de Grace.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Flat Out could win the Classic.

This just feels like the wrong race for Havre de Grace.

They both ran 107's saturday and the one time they met she beat him fair and square, yet he has a chance and she'll get drowned? Ok..

I do respect your "feelings" however. Agree to disagree.

Just hope your not on the Uncle Mo train.

[Duvalier]

I thought Repole was going to make the Breeder's Cup look like the USFL or ABA. I can't wait for more of the Repole sideshow leading up to the Breeder's Cup. Is he gonna have another Meet The Mo get together?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

They both ran 107's saturday and the one time they met she beat him fair and square, yet he has a chance and she'll get drowned? Ok..

Not that it matters, but she actually ran a 105 on Saturday.

As for your " fair and square " contention....I would say she got a trip dynamic far more favorable in her victory over Flat Out, relative to him, than she will get in the Classic, and the distance will very likely make a difference.

Everybody seems to have written off Uncle Mo in the Classic, something I can't do a month before the race, given that he is the most talented horse entering the race, while I think she is FAR less likely to win. But, hey, I've been wrong before.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Not that it matters, but she actually ran a 105 on Saturday.

As for your " fair and square " contention....I would say she got a trip dynamic far more favorable in her victory over Flat Out, relative to him, than she will get in the Classic, and the distance will very likely make a difference.

Everybody seems to have written off Uncle Mo in the Classic, something I can't do a month before the race, given that he is the most talented horse entering the race, while I think she is FAR less likely to win. But, hey, I've been wrong before.

I don't think people are writing off Uncle Mo and, if anything, are giving him way too much of a chance. I'm not saying he's a throwout by any stretch and is conceivably the most talented horse in the country. However, doesn't he shape up as an absolutely horrible bet given the likelihood that he's one of the favorites? To be asked to go from a mile to 10fs in just his 8th career start, just his 5th of the year, when he has only been beyond a mile as a 3YO once is a tall order, even for a supremely talented horse. Taking that gamble on a horse at 7/2 or thereabouts is beyond risky.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't think people are writing off Uncle Mo and, if anything, are giving him way too much of a chance. I'm not saying he's a throwout by any stretch and is conceivably the most talented horse in the country. However, doesn't he shape up as an absolutely horrible bet given the likelihood that he's one of the favorites? To be asked to go from a mile to 10fs in just his 8th career start, just his 5th of the year, when he has only been beyond a mile as a 3YO once is a tall order, even for a supremely talented horse. Taking that gamble on a horse at 7/2 or thereabouts is beyond risky.

I should have said everybody that thinks they're a wiseguy.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't think people are writing off Uncle Mo and, if anything, are giving him way too much of a chance. I'm not saying he's a throwout by any stretch and is conceivably the most talented horse in the country. However, doesn't he shape up as an absolutely horrible bet given the likelihood that he's one of the favorites? To be asked to go from a mile to 10fs in just his 8th career start, just his 5th of the year, when he has only been beyond a mile as a 3YO once is a tall order, even for a supremely talented horse. Taking that gamble on a horse at 7/2 or thereabouts is beyond risky.

Do you really think Uncle Mo will be 7-2? he would be a great play at that price. My guess is that he will be favored and is less than 2-1.

Paul

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't think people are writing off Uncle Mo and, if anything, are giving him way too much of a chance. I'm not saying he's a throwout by any stretch and is conceivably the most talented horse in the country. However, doesn't he shape up as an absolutely horrible bet given the likelihood that he's one of the favorites? To be asked to go from a mile to 10fs in just his 8th career start, just his 5th of the year, when he has only been beyond a mile as a 3YO once is a tall order, even for a supremely talented horse. Taking that gamble on a horse at 7/2 or thereabouts is beyond risky.

If he is 7/2 in the gate I will eat the program. If he trains well and the reports are strong from the backside he should be 8/5.. Flat Out, tizway off the bench and a Jones juiced filly are the top three contenders..come now that isnt exactly murders row

[ellpol]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Flat Out could win the Classic.

This just feels like the wrong race for Havre de Grace.

Trust Larry Jones he knows best

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Flat Out could win the Classic.

This just feels like the wrong race for Havre de Grace.

Ya think???

Looks like the one to beat to me but, what do I know...

[NTamm1215]

Of all the horses on that list with no chance it's a little funny that two horses who came up with negative remarks on this thread were Flat Out and Havre de Grace. I guess the rest were self explanatory.

[gamblin4ever]

As of now, just pencil Awesome Gem in 2nd.

[Bogey]

How about Giant Oak and Ruler On Ice for 3rd and 4th, respectively.

[skyfire]

This isn't a race to enter as a spur of the moment, nothing else left to do race. I will take American horses pointing to BCC over SYT, etc.

[jpops757]

The uncle is back. Will Thursty and him be coupled?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Of all the horses on that list with no chance it's a little funny that two horses who came up with negative remarks on this thread were Flat Out and Havre de Grace. I guess the rest were self explanatory.

I don't know who said Flat Out has no chance.

If you are referring to me, all I said was that HDG beating him really isn't much of a big deal.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I don't know who said Flat Out has no chance.

If you are referring to me, all I said was that HDG beating him really isn't much of a big deal.

I didn't say you said Flat Out had no chance. You said he "isn't much" and BTW said Havre de Grace would get drowned, both of which I found to be peculiar opinions.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Flat Out could win the Classic.

This just feels like the wrong race for Havre de Grace.

Right now, I would think that only three horses are plausible win candidates in the Classic. Once you get beyond Uncle Mo, Flat Out, and Harve De Grace, anyone else would be a reach.

I am again curious why this seems like the wrong race for Harve? She seems like she could be placed anywhere and can finish as well.

The race is a month away so lots can happen but if she were mine, I would be running in the classic.

Paul