10/1 (BEL): JCGC, Beldame, JHTC, Vosburgh, FlwrBwl (G1's), Kelso (G2)

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I agree. Yesterdays card at Belmont was a complete joke. 33 betting interests in the 5 stakes races and other than the Vosburgh, they were all just public workouts on paper. If the JCGC was an invitational, why would they invite horses like Ice Box, A.U. Miner, Birdrun to participate??

Because if they didn't then people would complain on message boards about it being a 3 horse field.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Because if they didn't then people would complain on message boards about it being a 3 horse field.

Or they could invite better horses.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Or they could invite better horses.

From where? The past?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Or they could invite better horses.

You kind of tipped your hand with the comments about Creative Cause but this post pretty much sealed it.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You kind of tipped your hand with the comments about Creative Cause but this post pretty much sealed it.

Really? I thought the evidence has been conclusive for quite some time now.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by pointman

Really? I thought the evidence has been conclusive for quite some time now.

I've been off the reservation for some time but this one was pretty easy to decipher.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Or they could invite better horses.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You kind of tipped your hand with the comments about Creative Cause but this post pretty much sealed it.

I can't say I follow his posts particularly closely, but perhaps he is relatively new to the game and doesn't know about the past history of Godolphin and Coolmore?

Which could also explain his post about inviting better horses?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I can't say I follow his posts particularly closely, but perhaps he is relatively new to the game and doesn't know about the past history of Godolphin and Coolmore?

Which could also explain his post about inviting better horses?

Which precludes him from derision? Not on DT!

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Which precludes him from derision? Not on DT!

I take it you are THE source for everything that is horse racing? Good to know.

I am probably not as educated in the sport as some of you guys are. Things that you think are common knowledge, will not be to me as evident by your ridicule.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I take it you are THE source for everything that is horse racing? Good to know.

I am probably not as educated in the sport as some of you guys are. Things that you think are common knowledge, will not be to me as evident by your ridicule.

It's fine to be someone who's new to the game. However, it would be best to read and learn a bit before making a silly statement like you did. When you consider how the field for a race like the Jockey Club Gold Cup is compiled you have to figure that with it being the preeminent older horse race east of the Mississippi, the invitees are going to be top notch. Then consider that there are five races with purses of 300k or more restricted to 3YOs on dirt between Labor Day and October 16, which effectively removes the majority of them from competing in the JCGC. Then factor in that even the "best" handicap horses on the west coast either skipped the Goodwood or pointed to other races. That leaves you with a very small list of potential horses who could run in the Jockey Club Gold Cup so horses like Ice Box, Birdrun, and AU Miner are invited, in the event they are needed to get the field size to 6 or 7.

As far as Super Saturday goes, the complaints about the short fields are an annual occurrence. It is a day where being a fan is much more appealing than being a bettor. It's not mine or your fault, it's not NYRA's fault, it's the fault of those who decide not to run in the races on Super Saturday.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Which could also explain his post about inviting better horses?

Trolling?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Trolling?

Well, yeah, he is either trolling or is ignorant of such things due to lack of experience with the sport.

Like I said earlier, I don't follow him particularly closely, but from what I recall reading from his posts, he seems consistent with his lack of experience.

If he's trolling, he's pretty consistent with it, which is hard for most trolls to be.

I've been wrong about these things before, on the other hand.

As for derision, yeah, why not? I just give newbs more leeway (rope) than I do someone like PG, Smoothie, CSC, etc, who should know better.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Or they could invite better horses.

i guess you think they only invited those who showed?

there is a two-fold problem with stakes right now...too many races, not enough good horses. people can afford to pick and choose, avoid other top horses, while still making good money and getting black type.