Would you rather win a Kentucky Derby of BC Classic?

Originally Posted by PeteMugg

What do these wins mean when it comes to breeding money? And how do other finishers of these races do when it comes to the breeding shed?

Glad you asked pete. Smarty and Fupeg cashed in nicely, but Giacomo and others havent.
BC winners have been more consistently syndicated for more cash. And look atthe stud fees!!!!!!
ST Liam just went for over 15 mill.
Zapper forget about it, look at his stud fee!!!!
Volponi didnt break any banks but Pleasantly perfect went just fine!!!
Tiznow got a great buck and sired a champ in his first crop.
Giants Causeway was a runnerup but it didnt hurt him any either!!!
Cigar went for a fortune befor being discovered unfertile. I think you get the point.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Glad you asked pete. Smarty and Fupeg cashed in nicely, but Giacomo and others havent.
BC winners have been more consistently syndicated for more cash. And look atthe stud fees!!!!!!
ST Liam just went for over 15 mill.
Zapper forget about it, look at his stud fee!!!!
Volponi didnt break any banks but Pleasantly perfect went just fine!!!
Tiznow got a great buck and sired a champ in his first crop.
Giants Causeway was a runnerup but it didnt hurt him any either!!!
Cigar went for a fortune befor being discovered unfertile. I think you get the point.

This is incorrect. Derby winners on average have a much higher stud fee than BC Classic winners. I will let you do the work and post the last 20, because you are wrong on this one.

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

This is incorrect. Derby winners on average have a much higher stud fee than BC Classic winners. I will let you do the work and post the last 20, because you are wrong on this one.

Higher start or higher fee with a five year average? You cant only count starting fee, its waht they generate total!!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

Higher start or higher fee with a five year average? You cant only count starting fee, its waht they generate total!!!

Either. The KD winners are just bigger money makers. However, the data is off because a horse like Seattle Slew likely would have won the BC Classic if it existed. However, farms value derby winners more than Classic winners for marketing reasons alone.

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Either. The KD winners are just bigger money makers. However, the data is off because a horse like Seattle Slew likely would have won the BC Classic if it existed. However, farms value derby winners more than Classic winners for marketing reasons alone.

yeah ole Giacomo oughta stand for at least 10 grand(and will never fill his book at that price)

Originally Posted by oracle80

yeah ole Giacomo oughta stand for at least 10 grand(and will never fill his book at that price)

Just like Cat Thief. The fact is that it is impossible to compare the two because the big money makers from the KD didn't run in the BC Classic. With horses like AP Indy and GZ the numbers may one day equal out, but Barbaro is likely to start at near $200,000 on a small book next year, if he can breed. I have actually heard it may go as high as $500K to start because of the demand right now and the possibility of only openings for 50 mares.

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When it comes to trainers and jockeys it's about the money.But if your talking about owners like the Maktoums(wrong spelling i'm sure)or the late Bob Lewis and farms like Claiborne and others the money becomes secondary,and then it's about prestige.Do you think any of these Arab owners really need the money.Let's get real,what they make in horse racing is chump change to them.