Do any trainers not cheat?

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Originally Posted by The Bid

PAIS

Im not including Clen in commonly used drugs to enhance equine performance. Winstrol, Trenbolone, Deca, Aflutop, Equipoise, Cancer Drugs, Lasix, those are all drugs we can use to improve performance. I think used in conjunction with these drugs, Clen can be useful. The thing Lake does that others dont is he never offs the clen. They are continually on a cycle, most trianers will go on for a while then remove the horse after hes over his lung infection. Lake continues use until he absolutely has to remove them, when you do that you open the window for a positive.

Then cheaper trainers will claim off Lake, not continue is training regimen, and ultimately the horse flops.

Bid-- I was not directing my comment towards you ...or anyone actually...except perhaps the person who started the thread. I just wanted to point out for those that might not know that this drug --while outwardly appearing to make a difference in a horse will not actually improve it's performance.
Nor do I have any idea about the training methods of Scott Lake...
i agree with you that a horse will 'crash' when taken off this drug...much like humans do. I also believe that it is a wonderful product when used for its intended purpose...it allowed a 'heavy' old pony that i knew to live quite comfortably in his final years, and we gave it all the time to yearlings when they developed coughs or mucous after shipping to a sale.
As you said in your initial post there is no excuse for a clen overage. Either the horse is sick and doesn't run until it finishes the medication and subsequent withdrawl time. OR it isn't...and then the trainer has to deal with the consequence.

[The Bid]

I think its the trainers fault on any positive, especially when you give it yourself. However I do understand how a Clen positive comes about.

Horses do crash off of it.

My basic argument is the general incompetence of trainers and their help. Its sickening to see how some big outfits operate, ridiculous infact. Guys couldnt work at a burger stand yet they are dealing with millions of dollars in bloodstock. For sure there is no other place in the world where someone who speaks no english, and makes 12k a year handles millions of dollars in investments. Its insane.

[The Bid]

I had a trainer once tell me..."ah, this is the horse business, its a different kind of business" To that my answer was BULL****, business is business. There is no difference, the only difference is trainers (Employees) arent qualified to run a business.