What's Best for the Horse

[Revolution]

When a trainer says he is doing what is best for the horse he is saying the equivalent of when a politician says he is leaving to spend more time with his family. They are lying to cover something. Tagg is guilty of this all the time.

Originally Posted by Revolution

When a trainer says he is doing what is best for the horse he is saying the equivalent of when a politician says he is leaving to spend more time with his family. They are lying to cover something. Tagg is guilty of this all the time.

Unbelievable, now Tagg is a liar as well? You are one very sick indivual. How do you arrive at these delusional explanations.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Unbelievable, now Tagg is a liar as well? You are one very sick indivual. How do you arrive at these delusional explanations.

He is no different than all of them. They all tell the media one thing to cover their horses injuries. He doesn't let me hang out around his barn and he isn't my friend. I don't have to lie to defend him. I know they all cheat and lie. It is a dirty sport, just like track and field, cycling, baseball, etc.

YOU KEEP DODGING THE QUESTION ORACLE.

Why is Kenny Rogers a cheater that you hate, but Dutrow is a cheater, but it is ok with him? What a joker you are.

[ELA]

I am not a trainer, so my opinion about whether or not a horse sould or souldn't race truly means squat. I thought not racing him in the BC was a very good idea. I very much hope this horse comes back next year 100% sound and healthy. My position was not that Godolphin/Darley/et al was doing what was best for the horse -- my opinion was ex post facto and I felt this was a very good idea; regardless of the owner and not sitting in judgement of what they were doing.

If Bernardini gets sick, scratches, etc. and they decide to race Discreet Cat -- sure, yes, I would not agree with that. But he is not my horse. Fans can jump up and down and say "he should race" and all that. This is a different issue as far as I am concerned.

Eric

[King Glorious]

My point here wasn't meant to necessarily point out Discreet Cat and Godolphin but I used him as an example that a lot of these times when trainers/owners are saying they are doing what's right for the horse, they are doing what's right for their business. While there is nothing wrong with that at all, I think too many times they hide behind that "best for the horse" thing. If Godolphin felt it was in the horse's best interest to wait for the Cigar, because of physical condition or whatever, then stick with that. But the fact that they would alter course and send him into the Classic if Bernardini can't go says that the decision to skip the Classic with DC had nothing to do with the best interests of the horse at all.

I look at another horse that's being held out, supposedly because it's in his best interests, The Tin Man. I wonder is it really in his best interests to sit out the BC because physically, he's not ready.......or did they look at the fact that they could be 6/1 to win this race or they could wait and be 3/5 for the Hollywood Turf Cup and then decide it's in his best interests because that would be better for their pocketbook?

[ELA]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

My point here wasn't meant to necessarily point out Discreet Cat and Godolphin but I used him as an example that a lot of these times when trainers/owners are saying they are doing what's right for the horse, they are doing what's right for their business. While there is nothing wrong with that at all, I think too many times they hide behind that "best for the horse" thing. If Godolphin felt it was in the horse's best interest to wait for the Cigar, because of physical condition or whatever, then stick with that. But the fact that they would alter course and send him into the Classic if Bernardini can't go says that the decision to skip the Classic with DC had nothing to do with the best interests of the horse at all.

I look at another horse that's being held out, supposedly because it's in his best interests, The Tin Man. I wonder is it really in his best interests to sit out the BC because physically, he's not ready.......or did they look at the fact that they could be 6/1 to win this race or they could wait and be 3/5 for the Hollywood Turf Cup and then decide it's in his best interests because that would be better for their pocketbook?

I view it as a fine line. You like that they are doing, you just don't like the reason. I am a huge fan of the game and I am not saying that because money is no object, it really doesn't matter, etc. so they should run against each other.

I understand it; both from a business standpoint and from what might be the other side of the coin, the horse standpoint. I am not judging that one is true and the other is a lie.

I think many of us will think about this differently, and some will like it and others will not. I do agree though about racing DC if Bernardini doesn't go. While it may be the "sportsman" coming out, and it does conflict with the previous "what's best for the horse" -- I for one don't like that.

Eric

[jpops757]

Very over used term"best for the horse". How about "smartest or most prudent move"How many times do you see both horses that are an entry run?Darley and Godolphin are very close but not the same.