Do any trainers not cheat?

Originally Posted by paisjpq

http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/AAEP/2000/229.pdf

pay particular attention to page 4...where the question of performance enhancement is addressed...
Don't get me wrong, I know some trainers use it the same way bodybuilders use it...but actual performance improvement in the horse has been disproven.

And if Scott Lake wants to claim that he was using this as legitimate treatment for mucus or other bronchial infection I will repeat what I have said before...if the horse needs to be on medication that horse should not be running.

Thats not realistic. And I'm still waiting for revolution to tell me if he thinks that any trainer with a clenbuterol postive should be banned for life.
One of his "buddies" that trains has a clen positive.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats not realistic. And I'm still waiting for revolution to tell me if he thinks that any trainer with a clenbuterol postive should be banned for life.
One of his "buddies" that trains has a clen positive.

what's not realistic?
Not running a horse with a legitimate lung infection?
or not using a drug off-label in an attempt to enhance performance?

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats not realistic. And I'm still waiting for revolution to tell me if he thinks that any trainer with a clenbuterol postive should be banned for life.
One of his "buddies" that trains has a clen positive.

I think they should all be banned for life when they get their second positive.

Personally I think all drugs should be banned. Screw veterinarians, they are the ones that created this problem.

Originally Posted by Revolution

I think they should all be banned for life when they get their second positive.

Personally I think all drugs should be banned. Screw veterinarians, they are the ones that created this problem.

Your buddy has 4 at least.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Your buddy has 4 at least.

I don't own any horses. I couldn't even afford to feed them for one day.

Who is my buddy?

You didn't answer the question about Dutrow. Did he ever get caught cheating?

It amazes me how you call a pitcher with pinetar a cheater, and that is more acceptable in that sport, but when your buddy gets caught cheating it is ok, because they all do it.

You are so full of it is isn't even funny. You are about as two faced as they come.

Originally Posted by Revolution

I don't own any horses. I couldn't even afford to feed them for one day.

Who is my buddy?

You didn't answer the question about Dutrow. Did he ever get caught cheating?

It amazes me how you call a pitcher with pinetar a cheater, and that is more acceptable in that sport, but when your buddy gets caught cheating it is ok, because they all do it.

You are so full of it is isn't even funny. You are about as two faced as they come.

Kiss kiss princess. I think that one was intentional. You don't put an overage of pine tar on by accident. But you aren't real bright about anything anyway.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Kiss kiss princess. I think that one was intentional. You don't put an overage of pine tar on by accident. But you aren't real bright about anything anyway.

You don't have positives by accident either. If you believe they do you are even dumber than I thought. Next you will tell me Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi didn't know what they are taking. You aren't that bright, but you can't use stupidity as an excuse for everything.

The trainers in horse racing all cheat. You know it too, but it is ok for them and not ok for baseball pitchers. Either you say it is part of the sport or you say they are all cheaters. You can't pick and choose, like you seem to do.

Originally Posted by Revolution

You don't have positives by accident either. If you believe they do you are even dumber than I thought. Next you will tell me Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi didn't know what they are taking. You aren't that bright, but you can't use stupidity as an excuse for everything.

The trainers in horse racing all cheat. You know it too, but it is ok for them and not ok for baseball pitchers. Either you say it is part of the sport or you say they are all cheaters. You can't pick and choose, like you seem to do.

They are not all cheaters, despite your ignorant views.
You heading over to Aqueduct today to talk with the head honchos and call them crooks? Lemme know how that works out for you.