Tyler Baze - put the whiskey down, son

I think Mike Smith is hitting the bottle too. He has only won 2 races at Del Mar and one of them was the match race he won against Chantal.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I think Mike Smith is hitting the bottle too. He has only won 2 races at Del Mar and one of them was the match race he won against Chantal.

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

About Mike Smith. He has been winning at 15 percent of his races this year all of a sudden drop to wininng only 4 percent of his mounts at Del Mar. Maybe too quick to judge of any personal issues he may have. However, I am not sure where you are going with your reply above.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Ummm....what in the hell are you talking about?

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Way too much meth.

[nomad]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

WTF?

BTW I know CS is Chantal Sutherland but who the heck is CPR?

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by nomad

WTF?

BTW I know CS is Chantal Sutherland but who the heck is CPR?

The quote and the first half of the previous post is missing making it completely insane to read and embarassing to admit but that's the truth. Rather than duplicate it.....I'll use a quote from SNL of years gone by and simply say...

"Never Mind".....

[2MinsToPost]

Alky's are sick just like someone who has cancer.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Alky's are sick just like someone who has cancer.

well, except alcoholics can decide to get better. but i'm comforted in knowing that since it's a disease, that the americans with disabilities act seems to help a drunk trucker keep his job on the road.

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well, except alcoholics can decide to get better. but i'm comforted in knowing that since it's a disease, that the americans with disabilities act seems to help a drunk trucker keep his job on the road.

drunk trucker loses license and job with dui/dwi

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Alky's are sick just like someone who has cancer.

*wanking motion* - Everyone with cancer

[Fearless Leader]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Surely there must be a law in Bykland strictly prohibiting PUI.

[MaTH716]

Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

Are her wins all from the turf?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever

Are her wins all from the turf?

I honestly don't know, but it really doesn't matter. You would think that Smith is also getting much better horses to ride. I was just shocked when I saw it.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I honestly don't know, but it really doesn't matter. You would think that Smith is also getting much better horses to ride. I was just shocked when I saw it.

Matt, He really seemed to take a very casual attitude there this meet - almost as if he was riding as a favor for certain trainers/owners. His mounts were never world beaters but certainly much more live than anything thrown Stra's way, and few and far between (58 total for the meeting).

Stra on the other hand, never had anything live and just rode her guts out. Almost funny to see Baffert use her on Sunday - any time a Baffert firster goes off @ 6-1, it might as well be 66-1. If they're even rumored to be live they get crushed. I thought she had a great meet and hope she gets some classier opportunities @ SA.

I can't and won't try to physically tie Baze's struggle with his work, but it was crystal clear that something was way off with him. He ruined a bunch of winning efforts as his timing was off and his reactions were not fluid. Cost me a pick 4 on Sir Bell's drop in class (watch the race - it is a perfect example of what I'm describing) who went on to win two in a row without him. That was just one example of at least 6 other rides I could reference.

Hope he gets the help he needs and comes back stronger... shame to see talented people destroy themselves.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I honestly don't know, but it really doesn't matter. You would think that Smith is also getting much better horses to ride. I was just shocked when I saw it.

Really? You were shocked? The guy hasn't ridden like a top rider in 5+ years. If it weren't for Zenyatta, no one would even know his name anymore.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

Whoa I had no idea!

Fun thread.

Back to Tyler... Poor kid has been through a lot. I wish him all the best.

[Stickhorse]

I saw a HRTV's Inside Information piece about Tyler Baze. It commented about his struggles with alcohol but was probably produced about a year ago.

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?

The DRF link below says he remains suspended and still has not satisfactorily served a 30 Rehab Program mandated by the SoCal stewards.

http://www.drf.com/news/hollywood-ty...-entered-rehab

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?