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Old 08-31-2011, 06:17 PM
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I actually thought is was a decent ride. Sometimes shiiiiit happens on the turf at 38 mph . His ride wasnt all that bad and she was given a chance to win. Sure her trip wasn't ideal but the fig was a 90 and while turf figs are useless and Hungry Island is OK, she should have won if she handled the ground and was right. The ride IMO was not the #1 issue..The horse was.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:26 PM
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When BTW and DrugS weighed in you knew it was a mistake to dump Lezcano, but when Freddy unleashed such powerful prose it became clear that this was a bad decision.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:29 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks that Ramon had a lot to do with Winter Memories not winning that race?
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:37 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks that Ramon had a lot to do with Winter Memories not winning that race?
Ramon's ride and Lezcano's reaction to it is a big part of the decision to switch.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:53 AM
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Another knee jerk reaction to a loss.

It seems the only reason a horse can lose these days is at the hands of the jockey riding them. I am as guilty as the rest for blaming jockeys in the heat of the moment, but after reviewing the races in a nonbiased manner, I often end up thinking that any other jock would have gotten the same results under those specific race circumstances.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:25 AM
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Nobody on this board knows the reason why Jose was taken off. Maybe he was instructed to just keep the filly on the outside and just make that devistation late run she has. Obviously she wasn't on the rail and all the blame can't be put on Ramon for his great ride boxing her in.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:14 PM
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Nobody on this board knows the reason why Jose was taken off. Maybe he was instructed to just keep the filly on the outside and just make that devistation late run she has. Obviously she wasn't on the rail and all the blame can't be put on Ramon for his great ride boxing her in.
Actually it was because Toner drafted Payton Manning in the NYRA fantasy football league and told Lezcano that if he didn't trade Aaron Rodgers to him he was fired off of Winter Memories. Lezcano said the mount wasn't nearly enough to get him to trade Rodgers. Castellano quickly moved in and traded both Tom Brady and Andre Johnson to Toner for Manning and Tiki Barber who Jimmy took a late round flyer on.
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