Castellano on Winter Memories

Calzone Lord · #1 08-31-2011, 06:29 PM

Lezcano is a great turf rider.

His long-term numbers underline that point in a big, big, way.

There are very few jockeys who are true difference makers (in a good way) on the major circuits -- relative to other riding options. Lezcano, in turf routes, is one. Dominguez, in turf routes, is one. They are the two finest turf route jocks in the country... and you hear so much about how the connections of Gio Ponti need to dump Dominguez (for who? Lezcano?)

blackthroatedwind · #2 08-31-2011, 06:46 PM

Jose deserves a LOT better.

freddymo · #3 08-31-2011, 07:17 PM

I actually thought is was a decent ride. Sometimes shiiiiit happens on the turf at 38 mph . His ride wasnt all that bad and she was given a chance to win. Sure her trip wasn't ideal but the fig was a 90 and while turf figs are useless and Hungry Island is OK, she should have won if she handled the ground and was right. The ride IMO was not the #1 issue..The horse was.

NTamm1215 · #4 08-31-2011, 07:26 PM

When BTW and DrugS weighed in you knew it was a mistake to dump Lezcano, but when Freddy unleashed such powerful prose it became clear that this was a bad decision.

GPK · #5 08-31-2011, 07:29 PM

Am I the only one that thinks that Ramon had a lot to do with Winter Memories not winning that race?

golfer · #6 08-31-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Am I the only one that thinks that Ramon had a lot to do with Winter Memories not winning that race?

Ramon's ride and Lezcano's reaction to it is a big part of the decision to switch.

Bigsmc · #7 09-01-2011, 05:53 AM

Another knee jerk reaction to a loss.

It seems the only reason a horse can lose these days is at the hands of the jockey riding them. I am as guilty as the rest for blaming jockeys in the heat of the moment, but after reviewing the races in a nonbiased manner, I often end up thinking that any other jock would have gotten the same results under those specific race circumstances.

Alabama Stakes · #8 09-02-2011, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Jose deserves a LOT better.

winter memories DESERVED a better ride, for she is as wonderful as her Mom. Memories of Ronnie Franklin on The Bid

blackthroatedwind · #9 09-02-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

winter memories DESERVED a better ride, for she is as wonderful as her Mom. Memories of Ronnie Franklin on The Bid

Your opinion doesn't get better just because this is a different board...and you are using a different name.

Alabama Stakes · #10 09-02-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Your opinion doesn't get better just because this is a different board...and you are using a different name.

au contraire mon ami. check who's leading the saratoga contest, I've been on a heater all summer. I even got pretty boy freud home.The best part about it was i made 2 scores throwin your guys in. I don't hold grudges and I'm not about to start now. Maybe if you find a nice Italian girl you'll start being a little nicer to everyone. i know you can be a nice guy when you want to be.

Bigsmc · #11 09-03-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

au contraire mon ami. check who's leading the saratoga contest, I've been on a heater all summer. I even got pretty boy freud home.The best part about it was i made 2 scores throwin your guys in.