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08-28-2011, 03:36 PM
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That said, we'll see about 'Derby horse' material. His pedigree has a middle distance feel to it at a glance, and the female family has 'sprinty' up front. Fire On Ice's dam Lost in the Storm (Storm Cat) was unraced, but being out of Lost the Code (Lost Code) she is a half to Squirtle Squirt (Marquetry). Another sib of Lost in the Storm was Il Capricio (Langfuhr), a 3x winner (27/3-4-6; $88k) that never did anything beyond 7f. Lost the Code herself was a hard-knocking claiming mare that won 13x between 6-7f in 60 starts for $180k, (for Bernie Flint among many others). That being said, if you want to look for latent route-going ability in Fire On Ice, he does hale from a VERY interesting and famous female family that goes back to top producing blue hens like Cherokee Rose and her dam The Squaw. Cherokee Rose (Princequillo) got Fast Turn (Turn-To), dam of the great Ack Ack (Sire of Broad Brush), and her full sister How won the CCAO, KY Oaks and Ladies H. After racing, How got Pocahontas (Roman) who won the Schuylerville ahead of her own career in the shed which saw a Broodmare of the Year distinction in 1965 via the exploits of her Chieftan (Bold Ruler) and... Tom Rolfe (Ribot)! A Canadian division of the female line has also seen classic success including 1997 Breeders S. winner John the Magician (Bold Ruckus). Kimmel told me earlier that the Champagne (10/8/11) is likely next for Fire On Ice..
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08-28-2011, 04:22 PM
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I like Fire On Ice too, but he has zero chance to be around by the derby. I'm surprised he's still in Kimmel's care to be honest. . . thought they'd sell him.
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08-28-2011, 04:27 PM
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The 2nd place slowpoke is your classic distance horse with all the breeding -- and with enough raw speed to fool those connections into thinking they could win the Travers day MSW with him.
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08-28-2011, 04:46 PM
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The show horse ran on well late - he's an interesting routing prospect too.
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08-28-2011, 05:20 PM
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08-28-2011, 06:27 PM
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08-28-2011, 11:23 PM
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What color is he? If he's grey his career will almost undoubtedly be over before the Kentucky Derby.
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08-29-2011, 04:17 AM
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08-29-2011, 04:31 AM
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SAR Travers S (G1): Stay Thirsty (Bernardini) 101 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
SAR Ballerina S (G1): Hilda's Passion (Canadian Frontier) 100 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano) SAR King's Bishop S (G1): Caleb's Posse (Posse) 106 (D. Von Hemel/R. Maragh) SAR Ballston Spa S (G2): Daveron-GER (Black Sam Bellamy-IRE) 100 (H. Motion/E. Castro) SAR Victory Ride S (G3): Hot Summer (Malibu Moon) 89 (D. Fawkes/C. Velasquez) SAR Bernard Baruch H (G2): Turallure (Wando) 103 (C. Lopresti/J. Leparoux) SAR Easy N Dirty S: Driven by Success (Precise End) 98 (T. Pletcher/C. Velasquez) DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation (Unusual Heat) 105 (D. Warren/P. Valenzuela) DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor (War Front) 104 (B. Baffert/M. Garcia) DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year (North Light-IRE) 96 (J. Sadler/V. Espinoza) DMR Del Mar Mile H (G2): Caracortado (Cat Dreams) 97 (M. Machowsky/J. Talamo) DMR CTT and TOC H: Private Affair-PER (Privately Held) 90 (R. Cardenas/H. Berrios) CRC Susan's Girl S: Queen Drama (Burning Roma) 64 (D. Fawkes/D. Centeno) CRC Affirmed S: Fort Loudon (Awesome of Course) 68 (S. Gold/L. Jurado) CRC Catcharisingstar S: Citizen Advocate (Proud Citizen) 63 (D. Vivian /L. Jurado) CRC Seacliff S: Midnight Serenade (Bandini) 75 (S. DiMauro/J. Alvarez) CRC Lindsay Frolic S: Frolic's Revenge (Vindication) 75 (M. Wolfson/J. Leyva) CRC Fasig Tipton Turf Dash S: Musical Flair (Songandaprayer) 75 (S. Santoro/J. Rios) WO Ontario Colleen S (G3): Anne's Beauty (Artie Schiller) 87 (P. Attard/P. Husbands) WO Play the King S (G2): Havelock (Great Notion) 93 (D. Miller/J. Bridgmohan)
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08-29-2011, 08:17 AM
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08-29-2011, 08:56 AM
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CRC Susan's Girl S: Queen Drama (Burning Roma) 64 (D. Fawkes/D. Centeno)
CRC Affirmed S: Fort Loudon (Awesome of Course) 68 (S. Gold/L. Jurado) CRC Catcharisingstar S: Citizen Advocate (Proud Citizen) 63 (D. Vivian /L. Jurado) CRC Seacliff S: Midnight Serenade (Bandini) 75 (S. DiMauro/J. Alvarez) CRC Lindsay Frolic S: Frolic's Revenge (Vindication) 75 (M. Wolfson/J. Leyva) CRC Fasig Tipton Turf Dash S: Musical Flair (Songandaprayer) 75 (S. Santoro/J. Rios) Did these horses run an obstacle course or something?
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08-30-2011, 04:10 AM
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Any update on Sunday's BSF from Del Mar?
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08-30-2011, 04:16 AM
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DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor 104 DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year 96
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08-30-2011, 12:31 PM
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DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105......Will never see dirt
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor 104....Smiling Tiger had a view of his ass hole DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year 96...was shocked that Victor got him to rate
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08-31-2011, 04:35 AM
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08-31-2011, 07:54 AM
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08-31-2011, 01:57 PM
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I don't know about no Beyers, but Uncle Mo's winning type performance has restored my faith in horse racing.
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08-31-2011, 08:25 PM
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The current odds on the Wynn website show Uncle Mo at 50 - 1. I'm not a fan of future bets but that looks like value to me. If they can get him back to anywhere near the horse that ran last year in the BC the big question will be 10 panels but if he just makes it to the starting gate he'll be less than 10 -1.
William Hill has Uncle Mo future posted at 8 - 1 for the BC Classics the same as Tizway. His stable mate Stay Thirsty is the shortest price at 7 - 1. They offered up one Euro, Await The Dawn (10-1), a son of Giant's Causeway out of a Dixieland Band mare owned by Coolmore, who has 5 wins in 7 starts, looks to be a 10 furlong specialist and the ATR website indicates his next propable start to be in the QEII, a one mile group 1 at Ascot on October 15. http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...p-Classic.html
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