When this guy calls you a cheater .....

[Calzone Lord]

Yeah -- they don't juice .. they just electric shock I guess.

For all the milkshaking and stuff Gill was doing ... Steph Beattie could juice circles around him in terms of performing miracles.

[Calzone Lord]

Here's a little statistical perspective....

A couple of old school Hall of Fame trainers who sharper bettors like to joke about .... at least in a sense that they burn up enough money to fill the Grand Canyon with.







A couple of sharp horseman who get tagged with more accusations than they honestly deserve - but certainly neither wears a halo around his head ... one is a complete fag and the other a really bad former jock.

[Calzone Lord]

And now for what true cheaters look like.... these were taken on the same day a few years ago when this former happy couple was rolling like the Crimson Tide and shocking the slots world.

[Calzone Lord]

If you bet $1,000 to win on every D. Wayne Lukas horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $1,542,530.00


If you bet $1,000 to win on every Johnathon Sheppard horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $1,189,920.00


So basically -- you've only dropped over a million dollars each betting on them.


If you bet $1,000 to win on every Pletcher horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $1,234,845.00


If you bet $1,000 to win on every Rudy Rod horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $70,725

Now..


If you bet $1,000 to win on every David Wells horse over those 5 years -- you'd be UP $122,395.00


If you bet $1,000 to won on every Steph Beattie horse over those 5 years -- you'd be UP $199,290.00

[Calzone Lord]

And Steph Beattie was actually elected to be Penn National's president of the HBPA during the height of her domination.

Plus -- she's a BRAZEN liar. I talked to her on the phone when I did a column a few years ago -- and she was trying to convince me that most of the horses she had overages on for the new Steroid tests were horses she recently got from other barns. I go "uhh, Steph. Why don't you try again. I have the lifetime past performances for these horses right in front of me"


All in all -- people like Steph and Scooter were probably great for the game if you want to be honest about it -- and the new wave led by guys like Juan Carlos aren't hurting no one but the trainers.

They're the horsemen's problem not ours -- if anything -- they benefit us. The horsemen are so friggen stupid though -- that they vote these type of people presidents of the HBPA.

We need takeout reductions and betting exchanges so we can churn some money and grow the game on our homeboys like Juan Carlos and Scooter -- and play against the clueless dopes like D. Ranged Lukas and Storm Cat's old trainer Mr. Hay, Oats, and Water.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

And Steph Beattie was actually elected to be Penn National's president of the HBPA during the height of her domination.

Plus -- she's a BRAZEN liar. I talked to her on the phone when I did a column a few years ago -- and she was trying to convince me that most of the horses she had overages on for the new Steroid tests were horses she recently got from other barns. I go "uhh, Steph. Why don't you try again. I have the lifetime past performances for these horses right in front of me"


All in all -- people like Steph and Scooter were probably great for the game if you want to be honest about it -- and the new wave led by guys like Juan Carlos aren't hurting no one but the trainers.

They're the horsemen's problem not ours -- if anything -- they benefit us. The horsemen are so friggen stupid though -- that they vote these type of people presidents of the HBPA.

We need takeout reductions and betting exchanges so we can churn some money and grow the game on our homeboys like Juan Carlos and Scooter -- and play against the clueless dopes like D. Ranged Lukas and Storm Cat's old trainer Mr. Hay, Oats, and Water.

You are making the assumption that votes are actually counted in HBPA elections. Most are more fixed than Venezuela's.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are making the assumption that votes are actually counted in HBPA elections. Most are more fixed than Venezuela's.

They are all amateurs compared to what happened in the 2008 Louisiana HPBA election. The feds have picked up several guilty pleas in that case, but they still have to reel in the big fish.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are making the assumption that votes are actually counted in HBPA elections. Most are more fixed than Venezuela's.

The guy she was running against was a Polyanna.

I thought I read his remarks in the flyer I got in the mail a few years ago -- he wanted no medication, blah, blah, blah and he looked and sounded like Mr. Rodgers.

You'd have probably voted for Steph. The real question, I suppose, is he she got to run against him. I was surprised she only won by 5 votes.