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Old 08-22-2011, 12:48 AM
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By and large I don't have too many problems with Acta. A few odd decisions, he didn't make this trade though. The team rarely packs it in during a game. I think he sets that tone. I can see trying to get an inning or two more from Obaldo...the team does have 4 games in the next 3 days. It's not his fault the guy blows.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:19 AM
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I don't see how one can fault Acta for trying to roll a few more innings out of Jimenez yesterday, especially when one considers how much the bullpen had to be used on Saturday. Your ace should be able to give you more than 3.1 innings.
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:35 AM
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I don't see how one can fault Acta for trying to roll a few more innings out of Jimenez yesterday, especially when one considers how much the bullpen had to be used on Saturday. Your ace should be able to give you more than 3.1 innings.

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Old 08-22-2011, 11:59 AM
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I guess Masterson is the Indians true "ace" though, right?

TIgers have 36 games left, only 10 against teams with winning records (four TB, six CLE). Even if they go 18-18, the Indians and/or White Sox would have to go something like 23-13 or so to take the division.

Now that I've officially jinxed the Tigers, congrats to the Indians for the Al Central crown!
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:38 PM
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Masterson would be many teams true ace.



Jimenot is our 6th starter by virtue of the era's for pitchers who have stated this year.In fact...he's probably our no. 2 long reliever.

We got him to ensure we fail this year.
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:44 PM
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Well, most Indians fans that I know think they're a "lock" for the division next year.

The good news on our end is that the contracts of "Singlio" Ordonez and Carlos Guillen both come off the books after 2011. If the Tigers could take that extra $22 million or so and point it towards a starter and middle infielder, there's no reason they can't contend with the Indians again next year.
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:51 PM
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I am not one of those.



There are huge questions at third,first and even second as well as 2 outfield spots.Santana has DH written all over him and Kipness hasn't played nearly long enough to feel safe.

The pitching is swell ,but will always be less as they keep trying to force feed Jimenot so as to try and convince the trade was a sage one.

Imagine if they could throw out Drew P. and A. White next year.That would make them contenders.












But we seem to have lost them.
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:34 AM
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By and large I don't have too many problems with Acta. A few odd decisions, he didn't make this trade though. The team rarely packs it in during a game. I think he sets that tone. I can see trying to get an inning or two more from Obaldo...the team does have 4 games in the next 3 days. It's not his fault the guy blows.
r u disagreeing with me......hc ?



I know all this, but I do have a barrel o' shock when I see a pitcher who has already given up 7 earned in 3, in a very important game--mind you,brought back out because by golly he just might go 6 hitless innings. When Jimenot put the Tiger uniform on....how long did Leyland go with jim?
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r u disagreeing with me......hc ?



I know all this, but I do have a barrel o' shock when I see a pitcher who has already given up 7 earned in 3, in a very important game--mind you,brought back out because by golly he just might go 6 hitless innings. When Jimenot put the Tiger uniform on....how long did Leyland go with jim?
Both his starters pitched 7 strong innings friday and saturday and he has verlander going monday, he had quite a bit more bullpen leeway yesterday than Acta. I understand trying to get at least 4 from him!!
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