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Old 08-20-2011, 03:51 PM
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Boy do I know that drill.


That's why I quit those places;implacable homers..to the point I have to think Shapiro has either a HUGE family or a small one with lots of time on their hands.


Boy, it's about 90 here and manual mowing is not easy.However I am mowing nude again and my woody got 67 thumbs up.I've been thinking of Brown Sugah catching and giving signs between her legs.
I understand the sentiment and I understand making a trade when you're in contention but the complete ignoral of what they traded for is stunning. It's, well ignore his Coors field stats?? Who ignored them in 2010 when he pitched great there? It's, well he pitched well the month before the trade and ignore his first two months and his last 4 or 5 starts. We can't ignore what Fausto did for a month in mid May to mid June, no one ignores that nor should they. He was horrendous. No one ignores Carrasco stunk in July after a brilliant month and a half earlier nor should they. Yet every single fan and sport writer wants to ignore the obvious facts of a bad year by Jimenez this year. It make no sense. The only consistently good starting pitchers have been Masterson and Tomlin. Tomlin's got his gopher ball issues and he really can't go very deep...he'll get you 6 or 7 like clockwork, but by that 4th time through the order it's rough for him.

Fausto is the whipping boy for fans and media which is both fair and unfair. A great start from him like Wednesday was treated as an abnormality and outrageous. But the truth is and I have shown many people it is actually more normal for Fausto to have a start like that than Ubaldo THIS year. Jimenez has been every bit as wildly sporadic as Fausto this year. Fausto has actually had two up periods this year, the first month and a half and the last couple months. Ubaldo has only had one. I really dissected all of Jimenez' starts this year to try to make sense of the trade and it's not really a pretty picture how he has pitched this year. We've been playing baseball for close to 5 months now and Ubaldo has had one good stretch for a month and a half. That's it...it stretched into the latter portions of July so I guess that's why they figured out it was solved by him on the Tribe side, but since that stretch it's been disastrous for him again.

No way the Rockies try to trade a guy this supposedly good unless something's wrong. I'm pretty certain the Tigers found something in his delivery that he's tipping something as Verlander pitched Tuesday and they aren't starting him Sunday...why not?? Makes no sense to me unless they found something with Jimenez as they didn't hit him much last time.

I really want the guy to do well, but the obvious facts of the situation are not pretty and make not a whole lot of sense. For me, it's simply Carrasco is on the DL and we got a guy to replace him who pitches pretty much exactly like him, and saying stuff like that on that clevelandfan board just doesn't cut it!!
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