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Old 08-16-2011, 08:52 AM
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Since Andy's got the greatest job in the world why does he seem so grumpy all the time?

He is hardily grumpy. Nobody and I mean nobody is more willing to teach and listen in the industry. Now you had better come to class prepared because only those that do get the opportunity to positively effect there knowledge. Oh and by the way nobody is more respectful to the real gambler.
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:57 AM
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He is hardily grumpy. Nobody and I mean nobody is more willing to teach and listen in the industry. Now you had better come to class prepared because only those that do get the opportunity to positively effect there knowledge. Oh and by the way nobody is more respectful to the real gambler.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:40 AM
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Not to take anything away from BTW, but there are a few guys you can find only on boards -- who should be offered some kind of platform by someone.

CJ (CM Orioles) - for instance - has had a dynamic impact on my own handicapping. I was ignorant to pace figures before I ever studied his takes on the subject. I always viewed pace as an extremely important factor -- but at the same time I viewed pace figures as basically garbage.

In short time, because of him, I 'got it' -- and pace figures have a huge role in both my handicapping -- and my trip notes for previously run races.

Using pace figures to make trip notes has helped me find some horses who've won at huge prices with preposterous looking forms -- and many times -- are a great thing for helping find short priced horses who appear the one to beat on paper but are clear-cut bet againsts.
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:37 PM
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I'm still working hard to develop my skills and getting better all the time.

It's just a nasty rumor that all of the booze and LSD has made me a washed up has-been.


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Old 08-16-2011, 03:20 PM
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Who's that guy who looks like Demi Moore's husband?
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:42 PM
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This is effin great. Serling has time for this interview but can't return congratulatory PM's?
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:54 PM
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Nice interview. Wish there had been a little more about going to the track with your dad. I'd love to hear about that...

(I won't put the part about how thrilled I am that we now have your birthday on record since we all know how much you enjoy birthday threads!!!)

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Also, MMSC has great nuggets.


It's like in middle school when you'd hope to see the boy whose name was on your notebook even though he didn't know you existed and then one day, one day, his eyes caught yours as he effortlessly swung his head to the side to get his kinda long and unkemp hair out of his face while walking with his friends and in that instant he kinda nodded hello to you and no one else caught it - none of the silly giggling girls you were with who sounded like a bunch of clucking chickens caught it - but you did and your heart melted and you replayed it in your head all evening and night and the next and the next cause you suddenly knew for a fact... you knew that he knew you existed.

Oh swoon!

Ooops I mean hey thank you Sir.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:10 AM
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He is hardily grumpy. Nobody and I mean nobody is more willing to teach and listen in the industry. Now you had better come to class prepared because only those that do get the opportunity to positively effect there knowledge. Oh and by the way nobody is more respectful to the real gambler.
Hardily or hardly? He comes off as grumpy on ATR w/Steve. I respect his handicapping skills and his work with NYRA. His knowledge of the game is not something I doubt just his demeanor. Harvey Pack in his book "May the horse be with you" gives him props even early on in his NYRA career.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:06 AM
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i wished Jay had asked him why he went out of his way to knock the great champion Zenyatta every chance he got. Other than that, between him and hoss, they give out a lot of winners and have led to numerous scores for me. Thanks
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:08 AM
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i wished Jay had asked him why he went out of his way to knock the great champion Zenyatta every chance he got. Other than that, between him and hoss, they give out a lot of winners and have led to numerous scores for me. Thanks
Never knocked her a day in his life. Knocked the campaign or lack there of, knocked the connections and knocked the ridiculous hoopla around a mare that ran on dirt a few times. He is way to smart to knock a great great mare albeit not a terribly fast one.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:09 AM
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Never knocked her a day in his life. Knocked the campaign or lack there of, knocked the connections and knocked the ridiculous hoopla around a mare that ran on dirt a few times. He is way to smart to knock a great great mare albeit not a terribly fast one.
Can Freddy get a for this one?
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:12 AM
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Can Freddy get a for this one?
Should be a shared trophy, nobody here ever really knocked Zenyatta. Always the humans involved but never the horse.
Although that was routinely accused.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:58 AM
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Should be a shared trophy, nobody here ever really knocked Zenyatta. Always the humans involved but never the horse.
Although that was routinely accused.
I am not interested in another debate but this was just another instance where if you didn't think Zenyatta was the bestest horsey ever with the California coolest connections her fans were sure that you HATED her.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:44 AM
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Can Freddy get a for this one?
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:01 AM
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Never knocked her a day in his life. Knocked the campaign or lack there of, knocked the connections and knocked the ridiculous hoopla around a mare that ran on dirt a few times. He is way to smart to knock a great great mare albeit not a terribly fast one.
Someone was giving him some grief about Zenyatta on TVG on Monday. It got old in a hurry.
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:35 PM
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Someone was giving him some grief about Zenyatta on TVG on Monday. It got old in a hurry.
It was Ken Rudolph I believe.
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:29 PM
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It was Ken Rudolph I believe.
yeah, he is the most knowledgable person in horse racing....

He might be the dumbest, period.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:41 PM
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It was Ken Rudolph I believe.
It was him, if that is who was doing the show on Monday with Simon Bray. But there was also someone either emailing or twittering in during the show egging Rudolph on.

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Old 08-17-2011, 11:04 AM
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:49 AM
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Is that Isiah Thomas?
No, but it's probably a Knicks fan reacting to one of his many stellar moves..................
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