Republican lobbying group accuse of voter suppression in Wisconsin

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Your unwillingness to admit that when liberals are wrong amazes me.

Really? Your ability to jump to conclusions amazes me.

Reading the law - it does not appear they exchanged bribes for votes - there doesn't appear to be anything illegal. If that turns out to be true, they must suffer.

It's not illegal to bus legal voters to vote, or even have a party for them. Both parties do that all the time.

On the other hand, a lobbying group deliberately sending out absentee ballots targeted only to the opposition party with the wrong date and wrong return address pretty much is an obvious violation of the law, but of course that has yet to be investigated and proven, too.

That has happened in the past on the Democratic side (don't forget I grew up in Chicago) but that's not the case here, is it?

Voter turnout will be high and the democrats may win with the additional outside spending and union funding (over $9.7 million).

The Republican side is well represented with outside money, too, don't worry about that. Right now it appears they are outspending the Democratic side 2 to 1.

Voter turnout should be high - that would be great.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Really? Your ability to jump to conclusions amazes me.

Reading the law - it does not appear they exchanged bribes for votes - there doesn't appear to be anything illegal. If that turns out to be true, they must suffer.

It's not illegal to bus legal voters to vote, or even have a party for them. Both parties do that all the time.

On the other hand, a lobbying group deliberately sending out absentee ballots targeted only to the opposition party with the wrong date and wrong return address pretty much is an obvious violation of the law, but of course that has yet to be investigated and proven, too.

That has happened in the past on the Democratic side (don't forget I grew up in Chicago) but that's not the case here, is it?



The Republican side is well represented with outside money, too, don't worry about that. Right now it appears they are outspending the Democratic side 2 to 1.

Voter turnout should be high - that would be great.

The politics and games being played by both sides in WI is ridiculous. There are more examples on both sides of ethical violations with the upcoming elections. I just can't believe that you think that there is nothing ethically wrong with having a block party with free meals, free rides and contest to get people to vote ABSENTEE

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

The politics and games being played by both sides in WI is ridiculous. There are more examples on both sides of ethical violations with the upcoming elections. I just can't believe that you think that there is nothing ethically wrong with having a block party with free meals, free rides and contest to get people to vote ABSENTEE

Many people who will be around on election day vote absentee, so they don't have to worry about getting to the polls election day. Both parties try to get voters to vote absentee. Block parties and free rides are COMMON and legal. Have been happening for 200 years.

BTW, absentee ballots are sometimes counted, sometimes not unless the election is close. So you have to check the local jurisdiction.

I will point out that Wisconsin Republicans (not Democrats) just rushed to change the laws requiring what it takes to vote in person, and many people have to jump through hoops now to do that. So it is easier for alot of legal voters to vote absentee.

[Riot]

This is just breaking:

The Democratic Party of Wisconsin is filing a lawsuit alleging that Alberta Darling has colluded illegally with right-wing groups during the campaign and before, and has been involved in a coverup.

The party alleges that Darling has committed multiple felonies, and also includes her campaign, Wisconsin Family Action, Wisconsin Right to Life, Americans for Prosperity, and other groups.

The allegation is that an election bribery scheme including these groups has involved Darling writing the budget to benefit these groups. Darling received an open records request to receive the communications between Darling and these groups, and she has refused to comply with them. The Dane County District Attorney brought a lawsuit against her, and she then released some of the requested records while insisting that she has complied with all requests. This is the basis of the allegations of a coverup, and misconduct in public office.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

This is just breaking:

Huge! LOL

Not quite the hemeroid Hillary and Sen. Frank share but huge nonetheless!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Many people who will be around on election day vote absentee, so they don't have to worry about getting to the polls election day. Both parties try to get voters to vote absentee. Block parties and free rides are COMMON and legal. Have been happening for 200 years.

BTW, absentee ballots are sometimes counted, sometimes not unless the election is close. So you have to check the local jurisdiction.

I will point out that Wisconsin Republicans (not Democrats) just rushed to change the laws requiring what it takes to vote in person, and many people have to jump through hoops now to do that. So it is easier for alot of legal voters to vote absentee.

Just so you know and you get your facts straight the Voter ID law doesn't go into effect until 2012

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Just so you know and you get your facts straight the Voter ID law doesn't go into effect until 2012

Just so you get your facts straight, your state legislature rushed through the law change to get it in place before these recall elections, and even at the last election 2 weeks ago they started asking people for ID, although they are supposed to let people vote without it (soft implementation), and not intimidate people.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Just so you get your facts straight, your state legislature rushed through the law change to get it in place before these recall elections, and even at the last election 2 weeks ago they started asking people for ID, although they are supposed to let people vote without it (soft implementation), and not intimidate people.

Not true but carry on

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Not true but carry on

It is true. I suggest you read about it at the Government Accountability Board pages. http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/photo-id

At the recall and special elections in 2011, voters will be asked to show a photo ID for a "soft implementation" of the new law. Voters who do not have the required ID will will be able to vote, but will also receive a document explaining the requirements of the law for 2012 and how to receive a free ID.