If you like Sun King in the Classic...

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

No one is igoring breeding, we are saying that breeding is a component when capping older horses.

Now I am not sure why you dont think Sun King can get the distance. He only raced twice at that distance after the Derby 1 year ago. Once in JCGC where he finished 3rd to Borrego and that horse simply drew off. However, Sun King was clear by 5 lengths finishing 3rd. In the Classic he stunk it up but he was facing older horses and a couple of good ones even though I didnt think the field was all that well. But since, the horse has matured and has run some nice races. He was closing nicely in his last three starts and if you look at his fractions he is getting faster as the race goes on. Sometimes that is an indication of a horse that is capable of going longer. In handicapping you have to look at the hidden vairables and be able to make sense of them. Closing at 1 mile or 1 1/16 miles does not equal being able to get 10f. But it also doesnt say the horse cant. A clear third by 5 against older horses for the first time and a dismal peformance in the Classic doesnt mean he cant get 10f. I think he will run a good race and this field is suspect and why not him.

good luck chatting with BBB. i mentioned other horses who were supposedly limited at going a distance according to some posters, yet showed they COULD indeed do so--which he interpreted as me saying I thought they were limited--when in fact i was using them as examples to show that not all horses who are perceived as being limited (such as sun king)are actually unable to get a distance of ground. now of course when i mentioned GZ and intercontinental, they had never run at their bc distances, so it was a 50/50 shot for those who said they couldn't do it--yet they showed quite easily that they could.
now sun king is a different case, as he has run at the 10f distance previously. of course he's shown some ability--such as his narrow loss to invasor...