What is the most immediate challenge facing the United States right now?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Create jobs.....IN THE USA...

Good luck with that....the old jobs will never return...how could they...

In this small community, past 15 years or so had 5 good sized mfg plants close..
2 Textile
2 Furniture
1 Paper

and a few smaller plants...

Now located in China, Malaysia, Nam, Korea et al...

Then stop shopping at Walmart, or CVS, or Walgreens, or Dollar General, or Citgo, Or Mobile, or Target, or Big Lots, Or Cracker Barrel or, or...Look at your closet and then bitch about where stuff is made

You can buy plenty of products made in the USA if you really want to...but I bet ya' don't...

Truth hurts

[joeydb]

Don't forget that "giving" tax cuts to businesses (both small and large) in the private sector is one of the only ways to create private sector jobs.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Don't forget that "giving" tax cuts to businesses (both small and large) in the private sector is one of the only ways to create private sector jobs.

Joey.. It is no longer 1975 Any tax cuts will line the pockets of corporate execs.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Don't forget that "giving" tax cuts to businesses (both small and large) in the private sector is one of the only ways to create private sector jobs.

Why, if that worked, did we lose thousands of jobs under Bush? The complete opposite happened.

Bush did that in 2001 and 2003, gave massive tax cuts to business, and that oversaw the greatest, fastest job loss of thousands of jobs, and a decline into the greatest recession since the Great Depression. Why didn't that work?

Why did Reagan have to raise taxes multiple times to help counter his rising unemployment?

History shows giving tax cuts does not create private sector jobs.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why, if that worked, did we lose thousands of jobs under Bush? The complete opposite happened.

Bush did that in 2001 and 2003, gave massive tax cuts to business, and that oversaw the greatest, fastest job loss of thousands of jobs, and a decline into the greatest recession since the Great Depression. Why didn't that work?

Why did Reagan have to raise taxes multiple times to help counter his rising unemployment?

History shows giving tax cuts does not create private sector jobs.

How do we know that we wouldn't have lost thousands more if we hadn't cut the taxes?

The fact is that businesses need to remain profitable to remain in business. If you cut an expense (like taxes), then the business can continue. Whether the business does relocate is still up to the owners or management, but without profitability, there is no shot at keeping a business here. They will either move or close up.

Tax hikes certainly don't help. They accelerate the demise of a profitability-challenged business.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

How do we know that we wouldn't have lost thousands more if we hadn't cut the taxes?

Because history shows that cutting taxes doesn't create jobs.

The fact is that businesses need to remain profitable to remain in business.

The facts:
We are in the worse recession recovery ever.
Taxes have never been lower.
The top 10 businesses in the United States paid zero income tax last year.
Corporate profits were record last year.

Our economy is a disaster. Explain why trickle-down theories you are proposing have never actually worked in this country in the past 100 years, and are literally not working right now.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Then stop shopping at Walmart, or CVS, or Walgreens, or Dollar General, or Citgo, Or Mobile, or Target, or Big Lots, Or Cracker Barrel or, or...Look at your closet and then bitch about where stuff is made

You can buy plenty of products made in the USA if you really want to...but I bet ya' don't...

Truth hurts

Nooooooo, not Cracker Barrel...My favorite breakfast, scrambled eggs with gravy and biscuits and 3 strips of bacon!!...That good stuff is made in China!!
I'm crushed....Who among us doesn't do some business at Walmart...i only buy food there, no clothes...btw, all my clothes are at least 10 years old...i'm an old guy...My bedroom, living room, dining room and den furniture are 95% made in USA...but at least 15 years old...
Anyways, i was just saying there is no middle class anymore and the jobs they had aren't coming back...Couple months ago at this furniture store i picked up a Hallmark card off a table and on the back 'Made in China' for crissakes!...wtf...btw, assume everything in your house is made in the USA..

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Nooooooo, not Cracker Barrel...My favorite breakfast, scrambled eggs with gravy and biscuits and 3 strips of bacon!!...That good stuff is made in China!!
I'm crushed....Who among us doesn't do some business at Walmart...i only buy food there, no clothes...btw, all my clothes are at least 10 years old...i'm an old guy...My bedroom, living room, dining room and den furniture are 95% made in USA...but at least 15 years old...
Anyways, i was just saying there is no middle class anymore and the jobs they had aren't coming back...Couple months ago at this furniture store i picked up a Hallmark card off a table and on the back 'Made in China' for crissakes!...wtf...btw, assume everything in your house is made in the USA..

I make about 70% of the ugly crap in their gift shop I can guarantee you it isn't made in the USA.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I make about 70% of the ugly crap in their gift shop I can guarantee you it isn't made in the USA.

Other than breakfast there, the only other things i bought was their orange marmalade (and they no longer have it) and once bought an old movie dvd...none of the other junk....oh, forgot, couple times bought 2lb pack of their bacon...