7/2-3 (MTH): United Nations (G1), Salvator Mile (G3); Jersey Shore (G3)

hockey2315 · #1 07-01-2011, 11:15 AM

Friesan Fire has obviously been vastly overrated throughout his career, but would it really be that shocking if he resurfaced as a different horse like the rest of the Jones move-ups?

MaTH716 · #2 07-01-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Friesan Fire has obviously been vastly overrated throughout his career, but would it really be that shocking if he resurfaced as a different horse like the rest of the Jones move-ups?

Well he has the right style for that track.
Got to figure that he will be on or near the lead.

Calzone Lord · #3 07-01-2011, 11:42 AM

I think FF is unlikely even if Jones gets a reversal.

It's Soaring Empire or Zito. The UN is one of the two Euro's.

Just looked over about 25 races for tomorrow - other than Vukovar in the 4th at Parx - I see nothing I'm that excited about.

hockey2315 · #4 07-01-2011, 11:44 AM

I think there's a lot not to like about the two Euros in the UN. . . They'll both be very overbet.

Calzone Lord · #5 07-01-2011, 11:56 AM

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I think there's a lot not to like about the two Euros in the UN. . . They'll both be very overbet.

The Americans are dog crap.

The filly Bravo is on, she has several races on her form that should see her toy with these horses. I don't get bringing her over unless she's doing well.

hockey2315 · #6 07-01-2011, 12:08 PM

Obviously Stacelita's best form is too good for these--isn't that how it is w/ every Euro? Still, though, I'm not sure she's the same horse she once was and the trainer is 0/19 in the U.S. (hit the board a number of times, though). I'm a total sucker, so I'm giving Bold Hawk one more chance on firm turf this time.

Calzone Lord · #7 07-01-2011, 12:14 PM

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Obviously Stacelita's best form is too good for these--isn't that how it is w/ every Euro? Still, though, I'm not sure she's the same horse she once was and the trainer is 0/19 in the U.S. (hit the board a number of times, though). I'm a total sucker, so I'm giving Bold Hawk one more chance on firm turf this time.

Look at her 2010 come-back race. Look at her 2nd run.

hockey2315 · #8 07-01-2011, 11:48 AM

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Just looked over about 25 races for tomorrow - other than Vukovar in the 4th at Parx - I see nothing I'm that excited about.

I see the pedigree appeal, but what else do you like about her. . . Did she work at a sale and then get withdrawn? Don't see any sales records for her on bris.

Calzone Lord · #9 07-01-2011, 11:54 AM

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I see the pedigree appeal, but what else do you like about her. . . Did she work at a sale and then get withdrawn? Don't see any sales records for her on bris.

Yeah, she worked pretty fast in blinkers. She's fast.

I love the weak worktab with only 3 blah works showing.

Wish the horse was drawn outside - and wish it didn't have OO Castillo because he will chicken sh!t it up if the horse breaks slow... but horse will be fine if it breaks well.

hockey2315 · #10 07-02-2011, 02:01 PM

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Yeah, she worked pretty fast in blinkers. She's fast.

I love the weak worktab with only 3 blah works showing.

Wish the horse was drawn outside - and wish it didn't have OO Castillo because he will chicken sh!t it up if the horse breaks slow... but horse will be fine if it breaks well.

Good call

Calzone Lord · #11 07-02-2011, 02:05 PM

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Good call

Thanks. I knew she was going to murder them when she broke well.

At least we got $23 and change in the DD with a Juan Carlos trained even money winner.

Clip-Clop · #12 07-01-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Friesan Fire has obviously been vastly overrated throughout his career, but would it really be that shocking if he resurfaced as a different horse like the rest of the Jones move-ups?

This is a good place to start, even if only competitive with ML he would be showing he can do something.

NTamm1215 · #13 07-01-2011, 12:29 PM

I was waiting to see if it was written anywhere, but is it possible Martin Schwartz is going to turn Stacelita over to Chad Brown? This is kind of the same thing he did with Angara, Gorella, and Zagora.

blackthroatedwind · #14 07-01-2011, 01:04 PM

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I was waiting to see if it was written anywhere, but is it possible Martin Schwartz is going to turn Stacelita over to Chad Brown? This is kind of the same thing he did with Angara, Gorella, and Zagora.

I assume he is.