Trivia

[Calzone Lord]

Correct.

Never knew he was Ogden Phipps horse.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Correct.

Never knew he was Ogden Phipps horse.

Ogden Phipps' sister was the owner of Ruffian.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Ogden Phipps' sister was the owner of Ruffian.

I actually haven't watched the Ruffian movie yet - but someone told me current PID jock Fransisco Torres played Beaza in the movie.

"Bull" Torres has been DQ'd from more wins than any other jock in PID history and he's only ridden about 100 total races here. He pulled off a rare double earlier in the meet - getting DQ'd on a winner in back-to-back races.

Cheap DQ's imo - and one of the agents say the stewards have an agenda against him - and I guess they want to take it out on the bettors as well.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I actually haven't watched the Ruffian movie yet - but someone told me current PID jock Fransisco Torres played Beaza in the movie.

"Bull" Torres has been DQ'd from more wins than any other jock in PID history and he's only ridden about 100 total races here. He pulled off a rare double earlier in the meet - getting DQ'd on a winner in back-to-back races.

Cheap DQ's imo - and one of the agents say the stewards have an agenda against him - and I guess they want to take it out on the bettors as well.

Do yourself a favor and read the Jane Schwartz book instead.
I think I still have my copy laying around the house somewhere if you are interested.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Do yourself a favor and read the Jane Schwartz book instead.
I think I still have my copy laying around the house somewhere if you are interested.

I have that and the Seabiscuit book laying around somewhere as well - still haven't read either.

Outside of handicapping books, I'm not much of a book person I guess. After about reading four pages - I'll jump to chapter 8 and read a few pages - than if I'm real intersted I'll read backwards a little - if not, I'll just read the last page.

I like the way The Art of War was written. No nonsense and to the point. Plus, I can listen to it on Youtube while I'm napping.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Do yourself a favor and read the Jane Schwartz book instead.
I think I still have my copy laying around the house somewhere if you are interested.

burning from the start...good book. i have it, but no one can borrow it.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I actually haven't watched the Ruffian movie yet - but someone told me current PID jock Fransisco Torres played Beaza in the movie.

"Bull" Torres has been DQ'd from more wins than any other jock in PID history and he's only ridden about 100 total races here. He pulled off a rare double earlier in the meet - getting DQ'd on a winner in back-to-back races.

Cheap DQ's imo - and one of the agents say the stewards have an agenda against him - and I guess they want to take it out on the bettors as well.

Didn't see it either. A jock from the MD/PA circuit played Jacinto Vasquez.

Speaking of Baeza, talk about bad luck. He was the regular rider of both the Phipps monster Buckpasser and the highly touted Graustark in the same year, and yet neither made it to the Kentucky Derby. Not sure if he picked up another mount for the race.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Didn't see it either. A jock from the MD/PA circuit played Jacinto Vasquez.

Speaking of Baeza, talk about bad luck. He was the regular rider of both the Phipps monster Buckpasser and the highly touted Graustark in the same year, and yet neither made it to the Kentucky Derby. Not sure if he picked up another mount for the race.

He still had a live mount in the race - amazingly. Finished 4th - friggen Earlie Fires was on the 3rd place horse.



Looks like the winner earned it - 22 and change opening quarter - and 3rd place was 7 lengths out after that 46.20 half mile. Not many Derby winners make their final prep at Bowie anymore.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Looks like the winner earned it - 22 and change opening quarter - and 3rd place was 7 lengths out after that 46.20 half mile. Not many Derby winners make their final prep at Bowie anymore.

Noticed that, too. 3 in there came out of the Bowie race. What race was that?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Noticed that, too. 3 in there came out of the Bowie race. What race was that?

Gov Gold Cup? Rich purse for the mid 60's anyway.