Goodbye Weiner

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean common sense like knowing that in America each citzen is already independent and equal? Or common sense that spending isn't to get one "out of bankruptcy", it's to get one out of "recession", which are two entirely different things?

Sorry I didn't come up with the statement, Biden did!!!!

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Sorry I didn't come up with the statement, Biden did!!!!

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

Precisely because people are equal. You think about that for a while. You might be able to figure it out.

Maybe.

Meanwhile, make a list of every luxury you enjoy simply because society in the form of government banding together to benefit all of us is what we do as Americans.

Start with affordable potable water.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Precisely because people are equal. You think about that for a while. You might be able to figure it out.

Maybe.

Meanwhile, make a list of every luxury you enjoy simply because society in the form of government banding together to benefit all of us is what we do as Americans.

Start with affordable potable water.

i have a well. i don't know that i have that because of society.


water's a luxury??

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i have a well. i don't know that i have that because of society.


water's a luxury??

Potable, constantly available water coming out of a tap is indeed a luxury in my book, not possessed by most in the world. And for most (not on wells, obviously) it is arriving due to citizens empowering the government.

Does your well-water catch fire?

[Danzig]

why the hell would my well catch fire?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why the hell would my well catch fire?

Because she read about it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why the hell would my well catch fire?

Fracking.

My point is simply that getting all government out of our lives is going to make for shorter, more difficult, more hazardous lives. Government does do some very good things on our behalf.

It's interesting to listen to Ron Paul - he's very consistent in his thoughts, he's had years to reflect and hone them. However, listening to the son, Rand - well, although Rand thinks he's libertarian, and a strict anti-governmentalist, he's far more scattered than his father, even theocratic, even dictatorial, and remarkably inconsistent in his "anti-government" stance. The son is very reflective of alot of what I hear people espouse nowadays. Idealogic without much understanding.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Fracking..

You realize that was fixed, like a movie. Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.

If in the course of administering healthcare they provide potable water is the care still a right or now a luxury?????