Nakatini + Balleto = ummmm???

#1 10-24-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

So you don't think that some jocks 'fit' horses? You know as well as I do that her fastest could win this race, I don't dispute her hanging type with you one bit.

Listen to Point G Scav, hes right.
I have never once in my life bet a horse just because a particular jock is on it. I will refuse to bet one because a certain jock is on one, but never the opposite, do you hear what I am saying.
That "fitting" stuff is nothing more than a romanticized notion that is clung to by sports writers who don't know any better and degenerate gamblers who want desperately to believe in such bull****.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #2 10-24-2006, 09:41 AM

hold up chief , your saying that never in your life you havent bet a horse when in the pps he is the only one who wins on this horse and hes back on today....i think not...

#3 10-24-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

hold up chief , your saying that never in your life you havent bet a horse when in the pps he is the only one who wins on this horse and hes back on today....i think not...

Hooves I am telling you that. I think that when you are deaing with a top jock, the difference is subtle. I never used jock handicapping for anything other than tossing out a horse who had an absolute horror show jock on his orher back, and even then it doesn't scare me sometimes. I am telling you that. But to each his own, jock handicapping is how soem like to play the game.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #4 10-24-2006, 10:00 AM

mike im just saying ..if javy cast...wins on a horse ..comes off a layoff or is in a bad spot with rudy r up and has trouble wide ect..then javy takes the mount again you dont think that matters......

#5 10-24-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

mike im just saying ..if javy cast...wins on a horse ..comes off a layoff or is in a bad spot with rudy r up and has trouble wide ect..then javy takes the mount again you dont think that matters......

Only if I think the horse has a shot, its sure not gonna make me play the horse if I don't like him.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #6 10-24-2006, 10:15 AM

ok..this is going nowhere...youll never admit it..

#7 10-24-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

ok..this is going nowhere...youll never admit it..

Hooves why would I admit something if I don't do it?
I play horses before I play jockeys.
I will play a horse on a blind trainer switch angle though, that i will do!!!

Pointg5 · #8 10-24-2006, 09:58 AM

not me, I couldn't tell you who is riding them half of the time...

imho, Jockeys can't win a race, but they can lose it, but the horse can overcome even mild incompetence if he's the best...

I should clarify, it's my belief, but a belief I obtained from one of Beyer's Books...

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #9 10-24-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Listen to Point G Scav, hes right.
I have never once in my life bet a horse just because a particular jock is on it. I will refuse to bet one because a certain jock is on one, but never the opposite, do you hear what I am saying.
That "fitting" stuff is nothing more than a romanticized notion that is clung to by sports writers who don't know any better and degenerate gamblers who want desperately to believe in such bull****.

mike you wouldnt bet a horse first time pval if you felt the horse needed to be hustled from the gate and wasnt in previous races? one of the reasons i loved and bet offlee in the holybull was because the guid was gettin aboard and i felt the horse needed a patient ride in the race, he got just that and popped at a huge price for lands as you know of course. in certain instances its valid in my opinion

#10 10-24-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

mike you wouldnt bet a horse first time pval if you felt the horse needed to be hustled from the gate and wasnt in previous races? one of the reasons i loved and bet offlee in the holybull was because the guid was gettin aboard and i felt the horse needed a patient ride in the race, he got just that and popped at a huge price for lands as you know of course. in certain instances its valid in my opinion

And then "the Guid" didn't ride him out for 3rd money in his next start.
I wouldnt bet any horse just because Pval was on it, its the horse that counts most.

#11 10-24-2006, 04:17 PM

O... my big big man... I know deep down inside you're Balletto's second biggest fan!

#12 10-24-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balletto

O... my big big man... I know deep down inside you're Balletto's second biggest fan!

She hangs like a Christmas tree ornament in December.
She hangs like a convicted man in Texas.
She hangs like a chandelier in a ballroom.
She hangs like Peter North's unit after a threesome.

Seattleallstar · #13 10-24-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

She hangs like a Christmas tree ornament in December.
She hangs like a convicted man in Texas.
She hangs like a chandelier in a ballroom.
She hangs like Peter North's unit after a threesome.

Peter North I remember him in a Jenna J flick, he like drowned her in his stuff

#14 10-24-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

She hangs like a Christmas tree ornament in December.
She hangs like a convicted man in Texas.
She hangs like a chandelier in a ballroom.
She hangs like Peter North's unit after a threesome.

Peter North... did you know he did gay porn as well? Just an FYI... lol He was idolized by the Sigeps here until they saw it. lol

#15 10-24-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Balletto

Peter North... did you know he did gay porn as well? Just an FYI... lol He was idolized by the Sigeps here until they saw it. lol

YUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh man I didn't know he went both ways. Thats just awful.

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #16 10-24-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

And then "the Guid" didn't ride him out for 3rd money in his next start.
I wouldnt bet any horse just because Pval was on it, its the horse that counts most.

LOL well you and i disagree on a ton mike and always will but i do agree that the horse counts most. youll probaly disagree with me here lol but in my book 85% horse 15%rider

cakes44 · #17 10-24-2006, 04:20 PM

Oracle, no one is saying you bet a horse just because a jockey is on it. However, everyone who knows anything would rather bet a speed horse with PVal on it as opposed to Santos on the same horse.