62% Federal Tax rate??!!

[dagolfer33]

This doesn't directly affect me.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

This doesn't directly affect me.

How can it not affect you directly?

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

How can it not affect you directly?

I don't make a mil a year Tim.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I don't make a mil a year Tim.

But, I'll bet you're employed by someone who does.

Can't help but feel there is going to be even more unemployment if such a ridiculous tax increase goes through.

Where is the incentive for businessmen to grow their businesses?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

But, I'll bet you're employed by someone who does.

Can't help but feel there is going to be even more unemployment if such a ridiculous tax increase goes through.

Where is the incentive for businessmen to grow their businesses?

moving to lower taxing countries? Similar to why so many wealthy have residences in FL, AZ and Nevada?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

moving to lower taxing countries? Similar to why so many wealthy have residences in FL, AZ and Nevada?

California has refused to remember their own failed policies towards small businesses....at one time in 90's over 100k business moved out of Cali. Now they want to tax the internet puveyors of goods like Amazon.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

But, I'll bet you're employed by someone who does.

You are correct, this would be the definition of an INDIRECT affect. Let's face it. The GOVT, no matter which party is in charge, is always trying to stick a vacuum cleaner hose in my pockets. Riot and dell may disagree with this statement.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

You are correct, this would be the definition of an INDIRECT affect. Let's face it. The GOVT, no matter which party is in charge, is always trying to stick a vacuum cleaner hose in my pockets. Riot and dell may disagree with this statement.

I own my own small business. I pay lots of taxes, and purchase equipment and stock and inventory, and pay people to work for me. I agree.

The difference lays in what we feel is justified to pay, or not

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

I own my own small business. I pay lots of taxes, and purchase equipment and stock and inventory, and pay people to work for me. I agree.

The difference lays in what we feel is justified to pay, or not

the difference lies

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I own my own small business. I pay lots of taxes, and purchase equipment and stock and inventory, and pay people to work for me.

do you pay for your employees' health care?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I don't make a mil a year Tim.

trickle down was my thinkin.....throw the stone across the pond...ripples!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

trickle down was my thinkin.....throw the stone across the pond...ripples!

yes, because we all know that when we give rich folks more money they will share it with the middle class and the poor by creating more well paying jobs and increasing benefits...they are all really secret Santas!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

yes, because we all know that when we give rich folks more money they will share it with the middle class and the poor by creating more well paying jobs and increasing benefits...they are all really secret Santas!

No... but they're not the Klingon Empire either!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

No... but they're not the Klingon Empire either!

In the future, the Klingons become our friends, the rich will never be friends of the poor.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

yes, because we all know that when we give rich folks more money they will share it with the middle class and the poor by creating more well paying jobs and increasing benefits...they are all really secret Santas!

Subtle, but important difference: it's not "giving the rich more money" - it's taking less from them.

They earned the money. Why should they part with more of it (as a percentage) than anyone else?

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Subtle, but important difference: it's not "giving the rich more money" - it's taking less from them.

They earned the money. Why should they part with more of it (as a percentage) than anyone else?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Subtle, but important difference: it's not "giving the rich more money" - it's taking less from them.

They earned the money. Why should they part with more of it (as a percentage) than anyone else?

As Mr Spock would say..."the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". Especially in this case when the rich don't "need", they covet. In the end, one either favors possessions or people. Talk of what is "fair" to one group at the expense of another is inherently "unfair"...such is the world, not a black and white place but one filled with shades of grey.

[SOREHOOF]

A lot of people can't seem to understand the difference between money "earned", and money "received". Instead of jacking up the taxes on the "rich" let's start taxing the 47% of the citizens who pay no income taxes at all. Money isn't really worth the same amount everywhere in the country. Someone making $100 grand a year may be just scraping by in Manhatten, but where I live they would be doing pretty good. Del is right about the hyper spending Govt. they are spending $$ faster than they can beg, borrow, steal, or print it. They were aware of the Debt ceiling when they were breaking spending records for the last few years. They should have mentioned it when they were coming up with trillion dollar spending sprees. If you can't afford it don't buy it. They said America could afford it, and the people bought it. The only way to force the Govt. to spend within their means is to leave the Debt ceiling alone. Throwing $$ at this countries problems isn't helping. It seems to be having the opposite effect.