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Old 05-31-2011, 10:53 AM
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I don't hate Jim Tressel. He's a great football coach who did what he had to do to win. That's it. He is like pretty much every coach who coaches at these mega programs, no better, no worse, but in all liklihood better than most. Mack Brown and Jim Grobe got paid a million per win last year. Tressel was a bargain compared to them!! But Tressel got paid 20 to 30 million by the state of Ohio the last 10 or so years. Tressel sold his soul to win games at OSU. But so do 98 percent of D1 coaches in America. We need not feel sorry for him or think he got a bad deal or anything. It is what it is. And that's it.
And OJ did what he had to do too.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:59 AM
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And OJ did what he had to do too.
You tell me which mega program D1 coaches are 100 percent pure? I have no sympathy for Tressel and stated that in this thread. He deserves what he got.
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You tell me which mega program D1 coaches are 100 percent pure? I have no sympathy for Tressel and stated that in this thread. He deserves what he got.
Joe Pa?
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:12 AM
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Joe Pa?
No chance. I went to school there and saw the parking lot at football practice! My guess is he knew absolutely nothing about it! I'm pretty sure there was at least 1 rich alumni booster at PSU! I'm sure there was a chance Joe knew nothing about anything at the time, sort of like Tressel at Youngstown St and again at OSU.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:31 AM
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Would Tressel have gotten fired if he hadn't lied and tried to cover up?
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:34 AM
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Would Tressel have gotten fired if he hadn't lied and tried to cover up?

I know it's the "sage" thing to say "no" to this question, but I would say "yes."
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:35 AM
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I know it's the "sage" thing to say "no" to this question, but I would say "yes."
Sage is my favorite spice.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:43 PM
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No chance. I went to school there and saw the parking lot at football practice! My guess is he knew absolutely nothing about it! I'm pretty sure there was at least 1 rich alumni booster at PSU! I'm sure there was a chance Joe knew nothing about anything at the time, sort of like Tressel at Youngstown St and again at OSU.
Guessing is a far cry from proving, Joe Pa's record stands on it's own...notice he's not on the highest paid list....
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:58 PM
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Guessing is a far cry from proving, Joe Pa's record stands on it's own...notice he's not on the highest paid list....
Joe is a legend and my favorite obviously. But it is beyond silly to think nothing ever illegal went on at PSU in his 60 years there. Or to think that every kid he recruited was pristine.

College athletics and the NCAA are so broken beyond repair in general. It's mostly the NCAA. There really should be no rules on monetary gains by athletes at all. I think any school booster should be allowed to pay any athlete as much as they want, as long as the alumni in question isn't an employee of the university. I think any athlete should be allowed to be paid by an agent for his entire stay in college if he chooses. I think any athlete should be allowed to sell or trade any crap they received from the school for whatever service they desire as long as it's legal, be it tattoos, cars, stereos etc. Whatever free crap they received is now "theirs". They should be allowed to work wherever the heck they want to make extra money. The only rules that should apply is that they are academically eligible. Of course that is another monster on it's own how that is achieved!!

Of course none of this will ever happen as we truly hate freedom in this country and in other countries as well as we are truly afraid of what freedom actually will bring. The athlete should get the scholarship from the school and that's it. Whatever else they get from non-employees of the university should be open and allowed with no punishment from the NCAA. Let the crap go and let it run it's course. See what happens.
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Joe is a legend and my favorite obviously. But it is beyond silly to think nothing ever illegal went on at PSU in his 60 years there. Or to think that every kid he recruited was pristine.

College athletics and the NCAA are so broken beyond repair in general. It's mostly the NCAA. There really should be no rules on monetary gains by athletes at all. I think any school booster should be allowed to pay any athlete as much as they want, as long as the alumni in question isn't an employee of the university. I think any athlete should be allowed to be paid by an agent for his entire stay in college if he chooses. I think any athlete should be allowed to sell or trade any crap they received from the school for whatever service they desire as long as it's legal, be it tattoos, cars, stereos etc. Whatever free crap they received is now "theirs". They should be allowed to work wherever the heck they want to make extra money. The only rules that should apply is that they are academically eligible. Of course that is another monster on it's own how that is achieved!!

Of course none of this will ever happen as we truly hate freedom in this country and in other countries as well as we are truly afraid of what freedom actually will bring. The athlete should get the scholarship from the school and that's it. Whatever else they get from non-employees of the university should be open and allowed with no punishment from the NCAA. Let the crap go and let it run it's course. See what happens.
I totally agree!
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Joe is a legend and my favorite obviously. But it is beyond silly to think nothing ever illegal went on at PSU in his 60 years there. Or to think that every kid he recruited was pristine.

College athletics and the NCAA are so broken beyond repair in general. It's mostly the NCAA. There really should be no rules on monetary gains by athletes at all. I think any school booster should be allowed to pay any athlete as much as they want, as long as the alumni in question isn't an employee of the university. I think any athlete should be allowed to be paid by an agent for his entire stay in college if he chooses. I think any athlete should be allowed to sell or trade any crap they received from the school for whatever service they desire as long as it's legal, be it tattoos, cars, stereos etc. Whatever free crap they received is now "theirs". They should be allowed to work wherever the heck they want to make extra money. The only rules that should apply is that they are academically eligible. Of course that is another monster on it's own how that is achieved!!

Of course none of this will ever happen as we truly hate freedom in this country and in other countries as well as we are truly afraid of what freedom actually will bring. The athlete should get the scholarship from the school and that's it. Whatever else they get from non-employees of the university should be open and allowed with no punishment from the NCAA. Let the crap go and let it run it's course. See what happens.
Garbage post! We already have this in place its called pro sports. College athletes get a free education. Rules are in place to prohibit the richest schools from buying all the best players. I'm sick and tired of people saying college athletes should get paid. College is for education. Don't like it then don't go. As for Penn State, they may have had some issues with drinking and fighting over the years but they have been very clean in Joe's years.
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