Jerry Bailey calls out Stew E.

[2MinsToPost]

yeah he was talking about reference points, I had forgotten that

Originally Posted by paisjpq

moved too soon. due to inexperience on a 1 1/2 oval, reference points aren.t the same as mile track...thats what I got from JB

[Thunder Gulch]

So if Bailey is saying Stewie moved too soon or went too fast, what does that say about Rock Hard Ten's placement..either he admits he went too fast himself, or he admits his only purpose was to sabotage Smarty, which is what I believe happened.

Regardless of what he meant, I think Bailey is a tremendous addition to the broadcast. He may come across as being arrogant, but the guy earned the right to be arrogant by winning all of those Grade 1 races. The best thing about him is that he isn't afraid to share a controversial opinion or call somebody out. He may not be making friends, but he sure makes it interesting.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

So if Bailey is saying Stewie moved too soon or went too fast, what does that say about Rock Hard Ten's placement..either he admits he went too fast himself, or he admits his only purpose was to sabotage Smarty, which is what I believe happened.

Regardless of what he meant, I think Bailey is a tremendous addition to the broadcast. He may come across as being arrogant, but the guy earned the right to be arrogant by winning all of those Grade 1 races. The best thing about him is that he isn't afraid to share a controversial opinion or call somebody out. He may not be making friends, but he sure makes it interesting.

Don't get me wrong--I am a HUGE fan of Bailey and I love what he has brought to the broadcast, and I agree he absolutely sabotaged Smarty.

[Downthestretch55]

Pat,
I didn't hear the quote, but I was at both Real Quiet"s and Smarty's races.
Both were way different.
Kent D moved Real Quiet much too early. He thought others were coming at him much sooner than they did, and he used up his horse accordingly.
Stewart Elliot had all of them coming at him from the moment they made the first turn. The jocks took turns trying to rattle him. He fought off like four challenges, and tried to save something for that long stretch run.
That one was a "gang-up". When Smarty had been used up, Birdstone came.
Imho...Kent D showed a "stupid ride". Stew E had no choice.
Didn't RHT and Eddington take a shot too?

DTS

[Gander]

How many Triple Crowns has Bailey won? This would be like Andy Roddick criticizing Roger Federer in his bid to win the French Open yesterday. Bailey is being a schmuck. Of course he takes great pride in the Smarty defeat. He played a big factor in it.

[PeteMugg]

Gander, I know what you're saying, but isn't it their job to bring up these points? If only MVP's and TC winners could criticize, then sports shows would be very boring or we would lose a lot of programs.

[whorstman]

Well, you can bet your bottom dollar one of them was Kent on Real Quiet. But it wasn't moving too early, it was not watching his back as Vic Gallop was creeping in, I think he had enough gas in the tank to hold him off, just didn't see him comming. As for the other, McCarron said it himself, he Fed up the ride on Alysheba, so it could have been him.

[randallscott35]

Smarty was the one. I don't know that I ever would have considered Real Quiet an all time great so that worked itself out.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by whorstman

Well, you can bet your bottom dollar one of them was Kent on Real Quiet. But it wasn't moving too early, it was not watching his back as Vic Gallop was creeping in, I think he had enough gas in the tank to hold him off, just didn't see him comming. As for the other, McCarron said it himself, he Fed up the ride on Alysheba, so it could have been him.

Alysheba lost the Belmont by about 10 lengths. Van Berg has criticized McCarron's ride and thinks that Alysheba should have been on the lead. I don't care where McCarron had the horse. He lost the race by 10 lengths. If he would have been 3 lengths closer to the lead, do you think that would have made up 10 lengths? Van berg's criticism of McCarron's ride is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If Alysheba would have had a jet engine underneath him, he still would not have beaten Bet Twice that day.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

So if Bailey is saying Stewie moved too soon or went too fast, what does that say about Rock Hard Ten's placement..either he admits he went too fast himself, or he admits his only purpose was to sabotage Smarty, which is what I believe happened.

Regardless of what he meant, I think Bailey is a tremendous addition to the broadcast. He may come across as being arrogant, but the guy earned the right to be arrogant by winning all of those Grade 1 races. The best thing about him is that he isn't afraid to share a controversial opinion or call somebody out. He may not be making friends, but he sure makes it interesting.

Bailey was not on Rock Hard Ten in the Belmont. Bailey was on Eddington. Solis rode RHT. If I remeber correctly, I believe that both RHT and Eddington pressured SJ early. By the way, they went much slower than Bob and John. Smarty went :48 3/5 in the Belmont. Bob and John went :47 1/5.

[paisjpq]

both of broadcastings newest personalities ganged up on stewie...