Another Brilliant Plan Out of WI

[Danzig]

see, i don't look at who passed what. i read the item, and decide for myself. now, some people see dem or rep, and decide to find and post anything 'bad' they see from whichever group it is they are against, as evidence of yet another nefarious plot.
as for voter turnout, i put an excerpt about voter turnout actually increased in the two states mentioned. imo, turnout has more to do with the candidates and voter apathy-or even the weather. if you want to vote, an id requirement won't stop you. if you don't vote anyway, you don't care.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

see, i don't look at who passed what. i read the item, and decide for myself. now, some people see dem or rep, and decide to find and post anything 'bad' they see from whichever group it is they are against, as evidence of yet another nefarious plot.

When the Republican Governors Association meeting had an agenda item that talked about voter demographics of the future (strongly favoring the Democratic party), and the need for Republican governors to get voting laws made more restrictive (with a list of suggestions on how to do that) to make it harder for traditionally democratic voters not to vote with ease, and the Republicans talk about it publicly, it's not exactly a "plot"

It's the same thing as redistricting to get more Congressmen or preserve the political makeup of a gerrymandered district - changing voting requirements and ability to vote with easy has always been a political ploy, and the Republican party has used it for some time.

The "nefarious plot" side:
Deja Vu - new Florida law hinders voting rights of blacks and poor
http://newamericamedia.org/2011/05/d...lacks-poor.php

GOP efforts to change Ohio voting laws serve ideology not people
http://www.cantonrep.com/opinion/let...ogy-not-people

Republicans aiming to take away voting rights in 36 states
http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/05/23/re...-in-36-states/

Republicans writing laws to stop people from voting
http://www.examiner.com/political-sp...le-from-voting

[dellinger63]

TOP SECRET It's called the ACORN Offensive

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

TOP SECRET It's called the ACORN Offensive

Sigh ... I admire you for your single-minded dedication to purpose

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

When the Republican Governors Association meeting had an agenda item that talked about voter demographics of the future (strongly favoring the Democratic party), and the need for Republican governors to get voting laws made more restrictive (with a list of suggestions on how to do that) to make it harder for traditionally democratic voters not to vote with ease, and the Republicans talk about it publicly, it's not exactly a "plot"

It's the same thing as redistricting to get more Congressmen or preserve the political makeup of a gerrymandered district - changing voting requirements and ability to vote with easy has always been a political ploy, and the Republican party has used it for some time.

The "nefarious plot" side:
Deja Vu - new Florida law hinders voting rights of blacks and poor
http://newamericamedia.org/2011/05/d...lacks-poor.php

GOP efforts to change Ohio voting laws serve ideology not people
http://www.cantonrep.com/opinion/let...ogy-not-people

Republicans aiming to take away voting rights in 36 states
http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/05/23/re...-in-36-states/

Republicans writing laws to stop people from voting
http://www.examiner.com/political-sp...le-from-voting

This is the grand slam of ridiculous links

A letter to the editor? LOL

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is the grand slam of ridiculous links

A letter to the editor? LOL

Considering it points out all the pertinent concerns, and is factually correct, yup. Feel free to ignore that one if you wish. You can read one of the other thousand newspaper articles on the web about it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Considering it points out all the pertinent concerns, and is factually correct, yup. Feel free to ignore that one if you wish. You can read one of the other thousand newspaper articles on the web about it.

Uh it is a letter to the editor, not an "article". Of course union blogs arent exactly an unbiased source of news either.

Asking people for a photo ID to prove that they are who they say they are is hardly discriminatory regardless of how it is being spun. This is 2011, getting a gov't issued photo ID is hardly difficult or beyond just about anyone's capabilities.

[Riot]

Asking people for a photo ID to prove that they are who they say they are is hardly discriminatory regardless of how it is being spun.

And if that were the only change in the law, I doubt anyone would care. But it's not. By a long shot.

Do you think it's fair that students have to show a receipt for current paid tuition in addition to a photo ID that can't be their school ID because the school ID's do not fit the criteria the Republicans wrote into the law, chosen on purpose so students couldn't use them?

Yeah. It's oh so fair.

This is just another reason why the Republican party is headed into the political wilderness. Here's the main reason http://www.frumforum.com/paul-ryan-2012s-goldwater

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

And if that were the only change in the law, I doubt anyone would care. But it's not. By a long shot.

Do you think it's fair that students have to show a receipt for current paid tuition in addition to a photo ID that can't be their school ID because the school ID's do not fit the criteria the Republicans wrote into the law, chosen on purpose so students couldn't use them?

Yeah. It's oh so fair.

This is just another reason why the Republican party is headed into the political wilderness. Here's the main reason http://www.frumforum.com/paul-ryan-2012s-goldwater

I dont think college kids who aren't residents of the state they go to school in should be voting. If they are residents they most likely would have a drivers license. Plus exactly how hard is it to get a receipt? It isn't as though the school wont give you a copy if you request it.

The idea that this is such a huge outrage is silly. The GOP wants to do things that will help them get elected, plain and simple. Just like the other side does.