5/21 (PIM): Preakness (G1), DuPont, Sprint, Gallorette, Schaefer (G3's)

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Assuming she was a bleeder isn't solid reasoning? But assuming her improvement was due to a firm surface is?

What is the difference between the two?

As Phil noted, maybe she was a bleeder, she probably was, ALOT if not most horses bleed, and even some horses bleed through lasix.

I looked at it that she ran some decent races on a very firm turf course (nothing like she had ever seen over in Europe) and ran those races on a course that was very speed favoring.

I find that reasoning much more solid then Lasix moved the horse up. (And I know this wasn't his only reason but I don't understand the focus because Lasix is not some miracle drug)

[slotdirt]

Today is five years to the day since Barbaro's Preakness breadown. Truly a day at the track I'll never forget.

[ellpol]

Save your $$$ for the 13th race on Preakness day the 1 wire to wire on a good turf. The 12 post won't help though, but Edgar can get Leather Gloves out and over for Hammy Smith. I hope, that's my big bet for the day. Good luck to all.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Scav

As Phil noted, maybe she was a bleeder, she probably was, ALOT if not most horses bleed, and even some horses bleed through lasix.

I looked at it that she ran some decent races on a very firm turf course (nothing like she had ever seen over in Europe) and ran those races on a course that was very speed favoring.

I find that reasoning much more solid then Lasix moved the horse up. (And I know this wasn't his only reason but I don't understand the focus because Lasix is not some miracle drug)

I think most people know a lot of horses bleed and I don't think anyone was acting like lasix is a miracle drug.

I don't agree the races she ran at Gulfstream were over a very speed favoring surface. People love to rush to claim a surface speed favoring. There is no evidence based on results that the courses were very speed favoring.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I think most people know a lot of horses bleed and I don't think anyone was acting like lasix is a miracle drug.

I don't agree the races she ran at Gulfstream were over a very speed favoring surface. People love to rush to claim a surface speed favoring. There is no evidence based on results that the courses were very speed favoring.

ok

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Scav

ok

Come on man, don't be that guy. Did you watch the races on the days she ran at Gulfstream?

That was a very speed favoring surface?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Come on man, don't be that guy. Did you watch the races on the days she ran at Gulfstream?

That was a very speed favoring surface?

I played the whole meet at GP, almost every day, and my opinion is that turf course, especially the inner is very hard to close when it is firm at the route distances.

I guess the use of 'very' was incorrect because it made it sound prominent.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Scav

I played the whole meet at GP, almost every day, and my opinion is that turf course, especially the inner is very hard to close when it is firm at the route distances.

I guess the use of 'very' was incorrect because it made it sound prominent.

I played the whole meet also. Yes, there were days when it was a kind to speed. However, I disagree that was the case on the days she ran. Again, the results of the days don't really back your opinion.

[my miss storm cat]

I had every intention of going with Flashpoint but every time I look at the pp's Dance City jumps out at me.

4,8/4,8,13/all

(Good luck, Paddy. Please tell your jockey to stop fantasizing about Dala during the race cause last time he did that he let someone pass him and I'll have to strangle him if it happens again).