The Perkins Trade: One of the Worst in NBA History

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

You may be right, but I'm still not convinced Miami wins that series without the decapitation of Rondo's left arm. Even with a crippled point guard, Boston was not too far at all from winning both game's 4 and 5.

I agree. But then against Chicago? Chicago would have abused them in the paint like they did the last time they played.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I agree. But then against Chicago? Chicago would have abused them in the paint like they did the last time they played.

The Celtics likely wouldn't have beaten the Bulls with or without Perkins. Their defense is too good and their frontcourt is deeper and more athletic than any in the NBA.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Would appear that Boston's players have a tendency to get hurt. They play in a style that results in this. If it ain't Rondo, it would possibly be Perkins getting re-injured. You can't say that, because he's playing for OKC, then, he'd been fine to play for Boston. The Celtics have a different style.

2009: Garnett

2010: Perkins

2011: Rondo

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Would appear that Boston's players have a tendency to get hurt. They play in a style that results in this. If it ain't Rondo, it would possibly be Perkins getting re-injured. You can't say that, because he's playing for OKC, then, he'd been fine to play for Boston. The Celtics have a different style.

2009: Garnett

2010: Perkins

2011: Rondo

Meh. KG has had knee problems going back to his days in Minnesota and both Perkins and Rondo got hurt in freakish ways. They did have a lot of injuries this season in particular, but that's more due to their collective age.

[dalakhani]

The fact that the celtics were in serious contention for home court advantage and the trade hindered their ability to win a title is precisely why it's one of the worst trades in history.

Can you recall another deadline move where a conference leader trades one of it's starters, loses two seeds and goes 16-12 the rest of the way?

[ateamstupid]

When I think of a terrible trade, I think of something like the Herschel Walker/Steve Young/Dominique Wilkins deals. This was an ill-timed trade, but I'm pretty sure if Shaq stayed healthy and Rondo doesn't lose his arm, it doesn't look nearly as bad as it does now.

It's an easy scapegoat for a team that suffered through a bunch of injuries and frankly, gave away two games in the series against Miami (with the help of some typically Sternian officiating in Game 5).

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

When I think of a terrible trade, I think of something like the Herschel Walker/Steve Young/Dominique Wilkins deals. This was an ill-timed trade, but I'm pretty sure if Shaq stayed healthy and Rondo doesn't lose his arm, it doesn't look nearly as bad as it does now.

It's an easy scapegoat for a team that suffered through a bunch of injuries and frankly, gave away two games in the series against Miami (with the help of some typically Sternian officiating in Game 5).

As I said in the first post, materially, the trade was actually pretty decent. They weren't going to pay Perkins anyway and getting a potential lottery pick as well as Green and Krstic for him was a good haul.

The timing in this deal is everything. Who makes that trade when a title is in the balance?

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

As I said in the first post, materially, the trade was actually pretty decent. They weren't going to pay Perkins anyway and getting a potential lottery pick as well as Green and Krstic for him was a good haul.

The timing in this deal is everything. Who makes that trade when a title is in the balance?

The Sixers traded an injured Theo Ratliff while atop the Eastern Conference in 2001. Deke came in and helped us get to the Finals !!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Meh. KG has had knee problems going back to his days in Minnesota and both Perkins and Rondo got hurt in freakish ways. They did have a lot of injuries this season in particular, but that's more due to their collective age.

They are a very physical team. You think it's been just bad luck? Perkins n' Rondo's injuries weren't age related. Perkins is just 26 (hard to believe.)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They are a very physical team. You think it's been just bad luck? Perkins n' Rondo's injuries weren't age related. Perkins is just 26 (hard to believe.)

I ask this seriously, did you watch either of the plays they got hurt on? Bynum went over the back on Perk (as he'd been doing all series) and Perk came down wrong on his knee with Bynum's weight added. Rondo was WWF leg sweeped by Wade and landed wrong on his elbow. It doesn't have anything to do with what team they're on, anybody who takes awkward falls like that is going to seriously injure themselves.

[herkhorse]

PG1985 had a large bet on Boston winning the whole thing. nuff said.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I ask this seriously, did you watch either of the plays they got hurt on? Bynum went over the back on Perk (as he'd been doing all series) and Perk came down wrong on his knee with Bynum's weight added. Rondo was WWF leg sweeped by Wade and landed wrong on his elbow. It doesn't have anything to do with what team they're on, anybody who takes awkward falls like that is going to seriously injure themselves.

Joey, the Celtics are chippy. They just so happen to be getting as good as they giving. Both situations are in response to chippy play during the game. They're arrogant (so they think they can always get an advantage in a physical atmosphere.) It's simply not the case. Maybe it does help them short term, but it's an injury risk (to play that style all the time.)

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