5/7 (CD): 137th Kentucky Derby (G1); 5 Undercard Stakes

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Geez Bind.

Settled about as good as a cheating spouse

[ateamstupid]

Rosie's pretty stupid. It was clear that there was no speed in the race, yet she still freaks out and fights the horse because of what happened last time. Then she lets Worldly get the jump on her in the stretch by running up Eddie Set Go's ass four times. They need to put Gomez on this horse yesterday.

[outofthebox]

Or they should just let him use his natural speed. I know theyve been slowing him up in the morning to try and harness it for racetime, but it's time to let him find his own style. Agree with your assessment of her ride, just not sure if she was following instructions..

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Or they should just let him use his natural speed. I know theyve been slowing him up in the morning to try and harness it for racetime, but it's time to let him find his own style. Agree with your assessment of her ride, just not sure if she was following instructions..

I think that she likely was following instructions, but when the entries come out, you have to look at the race and re-evaluate. If there was a lot of speed signed on, I'd agree with her trying to wrangle him back, but there was none. And if you're not going to take an easy lead with a horse as good as him, you might as well stay in the barn. I'm pretty sure he learned nothing today and they screwed themselves and a lot of bettors out of a win.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Rosie's pretty stupid. It was clear that there was no speed in the race, yet she still freaks out and fights the horse because of what happened last time. Then she lets Worldly get the jump on her in the stretch by running up Eddie Set Go's ass four times. They need to put Gomez on this horse yesterday.

To digress, it was kind of curious that Stall cutback the Blame sister to 7f after a sharp score routing. But with Bind, who seems to want to be a frontrunner (not sure what's wrong with that really) and who wilted in his first route try, they choose to run back at a route and against older horses (no mean feat for a 3yo this time of year no matter the class level). And yet there is a 7f first level allowance for straight 3yos later on the card.

Guess the pressure to make the Preakness was on.

[outofthebox]

Good point. You definitely have to ajust to the raceshape after reading the form. They could of taken a page out of that textbook ride Kent gave Diva Ash yesterday. Nice point also Rollo, they have big plans for this colt. I guess shortening up is not in those right now. Speaking of that NW1, wasnt this the spot McCleans Music was aiming for. I hope he is still around...

[Sightseek]

I thought the "Money" segment on the Versus coverage was fun.

[pointman]

Maria Menounos looks great, and even better after putting the face to the facts disclosed in the recent Howard Stern interview.

[Sightseek]

Come on Apriority....

[Sightseek]

Freakin Aikenite.

[pointman]

That nose just cost me a f'n fortune.

[Sightseek]

Unfortunately I needed Doubles Partner or Prince Will to get up for the exacta, but you just can't let Get Stormy get away with those soft fractions..

[pointman]

Great ride by Ramon. Maybe some of those left coast haters will get a good look at how good he really is today.

[Alan07]

Record crowd at Churchill Downs for Kentucky Derby 137. Attendance today is 164,858.

[Sightseek]

The 100K went on Mucho Macho Man.

[pointman]

More importantly, Alan nailed the scoop on the attendance figure before NBC did.

[Alan07]

Mark Johnson's voice is coming over well on NBC.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

To digress, it was kind of curious that Stall cutback the Blame sister to 7f after a sharp score routing. But with Bind, who seems to want to be a frontrunner (not sure what's wrong with that really) and who wilted in his first route try, they choose to run back at a route and against older horses (no mean feat for a 3yo this time of year no matter the class level). And yet there is a 7f first level allowance for straight 3yos later on the card.

Guess the pressure to make the Preakness was on.

I don't know that 'wilted' is the word I'd use. He ran extremely fast fractions (some of the fastest I've seen going two turns at FG in recent years) and was just edged late while being 12 clear of third. He fought the rider that day, so I think they overreacted and tried to get him to settle in the mornings. Not only did that not work, but they pissed away a race that was theirs to lose by strangling him back and passing on an easy lead.

He's finished pretty well considering the circumstances both times routing, so I don't think a cutback is necessary. They just have to let him use his speed and hopefully as he matures, he'll be able to ration it better than he did at Fair Grounds. But that abomination of a ride he got today told us nothing.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's finished pretty well considering the circumstances both times routing, so I don't think a cutback is necessary. They just have to let him use his speed and hopefully as he matures, he'll be able to ration it better than he did at Fair Grounds. But that abomination of a ride he got today told us nothing.

I don't think the cutback was absolutely necessary, either, but in the face of the filly cutting back yesterday it just seemed inconsistent.

Plus, if they really are hell bent on having him settle behind horses, a 7f race early in his career with a couple of confirmed frontrunners might keep him off the front end.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I don't think the cutback was absolutely necessary, either, but in the face of the filly cutting back yesterday it just seemed inconsistent.

Plus, if they really are hell bent on having him settle behind horses, a 7f race early in his career with a couple of confirmed frontrunners might keep him off the front end.

I agree. I was puzzled with Might cutting back, although she was terriffic.