Dubbya continues to amaze

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Pgardn, with no disrespect, 'cause I think you're frighteningly intelligent, I think the Bush cabal didn't let out information about Iraq that contradicted what they wanted to do, so saying the Dems had the same info isn't really true-- they had the same info the public had, but it wasn't the truth; it was massaged and misrepresented. Bush was asking two days after 9/11 if it could be pinned on Saddam and it's no secret his crew wanted to topple Saddam long before 9/11. We were lied to; I don't know how else one can view it now.

GR with all due respect I am not frighteningly intelligent. I am curious.

Secondly, you may be right about the info. But I believe given what I have read that GW really did believe the Iraqi's had WMD's. I dont think he tried to cook it up. At that time, the Iraqi's would not let the UN do the work they were asked to do. DTS: The inspectors were constantly harassed, misled, lied ot, time after time. People forget that they were being extremely uncooperative. What were we supposed to think? I talked to many people that keep up intensively with this stuff, and not one of them said it is very clear Iraq does not have WMD's. The question for them was do we really need to go in and get them, how far along are they... they cant have nuclear weapons (we think) but the biological potential scared them to death. Remember all the powders and inspections in Congress and elsewhere? And biological weapons do not take the large facilities that nukes take. We as a country were very scared. I remember that clearly. So the decision was made.

Now, no matter what the Bush administration says, we have a Civil War. But there are some very interesting things that have happened. So many Iraqi's are killing each other at this point, that the "war lords" of all of these different factions are now actually making contact with US representatives asking them to stay. The foreign groups (outside Iraq) are not. In fact one of the guys that we had a hit out on has contacted US representatives for negotiations. Sad to say, but so many innocent people on all sides of this very complex situation are dying and its starting to hurt. My feeling is that there is the possibility they may tire of having innocent relatives butchered. I think there is still a chance some sort of arrangement can be made. The parties that were thriving with the chaos, are not anymore. Shiites are even splitting and fighting each other. It is a Civil War. And we have to give it a chance to die. There are too many indicators, however small, that all these factions are getting tired of having their own slaughtered. Its no longer just pot shot civilians, these violent groups are now feeling the real sting.

I just hate seeing Americans die for this. But we caused this mess by getting rid of the tyrant that caged them, executed innocent people to keep order. Huge lessons have been learned by all. The hard way.