WAGER NEWS: .50 NYRA P4; GP .10 P6 dispersal 4/23; HOL adds .50 P5

[jms62]

I just can't see a P5 and P6 existing without hurting the P6. I think NYRA should consider eliminating the P6 and replace it with a P5. I would venture to guess that the P5 would consistently outperform their P6. An all-graded National P5 held on Saturdays would work for me. Calif, New York, Chicago, Fla and the best of whoever is left.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by jms62

I just can't see a P5 and P6 existing without hurting the P6. I think NYRA should consider eliminating the P6 and replace it with a P5. I would venture to guess that the P5 would consistently outperform their P6. An all-graded National P5 held on Saturdays would work for me. Calif, New York, Chicago, Fla and the best of whoever is left.

I don't know if they would be able to do it, but what about NYRA just rolling out a pick 5 on big days when they have at least 11 races.

Move the early pick 4 to be races 1-4
Pick 5 could be races 3-7
Pick 6 races 6-11
Late pick races 4 8-11

This way there is only a 2 race overlap with the bets for the pick 5 and pick 6.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't know if they would be able to do it, but what about NYRA just rolling out a pick 5 on big days when they have at least 11 races.

Move the early pick 4 to be races 1-4
Pick 5 could be races 3-7
Pick 6 races 6-11
Late pick races 4 8-11

This way there is only a 2 race overlap with the bets for the pick 5 and pick 6.

Speaking for myself I usually only get involved in the P6 when it is a million+ but I'll throw a hundo at a P5 usually every Sunday at Monmouth and have participated at Keeneland each Sat and the carryover day. I would welcome a Saratoga P5 with an open wallet.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't know if they would be able to do it, but what about NYRA just rolling out a pick 5 on big days when they have at least 11 races.

Move the early pick 4 to be races 1-4
Pick 5 could be races 3-7
Pick 6 races 6-11
Late pick races 4 8-11

This way there is only a 2 race overlap with the bets for the pick 5 and pick 6.

There is alot of NYRA people around here that will disagree with me, but if I was running the NYRA, I would request to abandon the P6 entirely, add a P5 wager with 20% takeout and do it for $1 with a carryover, no conso. Now, I'll admit that I don't follow the NYRA completely, but I remember them only getting about 20-30k on a non-carryover day. I think they could do 70k a day non carryover and probably 300k if there was a 50k carryover.