How bad was Broker's Tip?

[Indian Charlie]

He was doomed the moment he was born. Anything from there is going to wind up in a bad way.

[AeWingnut]

How many lengths would Wheelaway have not won by?

[richard burch]

well if brokers tip can win the derby,


why not tobys corner?

i'm not seeing much love for him.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He was doomed the moment he was born. Anything from there is going to wind up in a bad way.

By the way - Rayon D' Or was the leading sire in the United States while standing stud at Presque Isle in the city of Erie in 1889. The old farm, Algeria, is connected to Presque Isle Park - and they now race BMX bikes on the old training track.

Tenny - whos famous match race with Salvator (possibly the greatest horse of the 1800's) - was bred and raised in Erie at Algeria. I believe he also raced for Algeria.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...DE405B8085F0D3


Trainer Glenn Wismer said he might bring Cozar to stand stud in Erie. That might eventually put an end to the cities 121 year drought without a champion sire standing here.

Rayon d'Or notably sired:

Tea Tray (b.1885) - won Monmouth Handicap (1890)

Gypsy Queen (b. 1886) - won Spinaway Stakes (1888), Gazelle Stakes (1889)

Tenny (b. 1886) - won Brooklyn Handicap (1890)

Chaos (b. 1887) - won the 1889 Futurity Stakes

Banquet (b. 1887) - on July 18, 1890, he set a new North American record record of 2:03.75 for a mile and a quarter on dirt. Won 1891 Monmouth Handicap, 1892 Manhattan Handicap

Liza (b. 1892) - won Swift Stakes (1894), Travers Stakes (1895)

Soufflé (b. 1893) - in 1896 she won the Kentucky Oaks, Latonia Oaks, and Jerome Handicap. Named the retrospective American Champion Three-Year-Old Filly

Don de Oro (b. 1894) - won Tremont Stakes (1896), Kenner Stakes (1897)

Octagon (b. 1894) - won Toboggan Handicap (1897, 1898), Withers Stakes (1897), Brooklyn Derby (1897). Sire of U.S. Racing Hall of Fame filly, Beldame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayon_d'Or