The Wood

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Thanks, but favs do come into the picture when figuring your ticket will be hit with a fav in your sequence, plus your single. I nor anyone else would have covered beyond Mo, at least I wouldn't have. I still say Mo was a bad bet as a single in the P4, even with a 50.00 ticket. 4-1 isn't a very good return on a P4.

Most public handicappers didn't say to spread at all here. And your P4 50.00 play was for a buck, so you where getting 2-1, not 4-1.

You're right on the increment, because the will pays screen would have been for $2. So that takes the Mo will-pay to $100 and the Toby's to $2,000 (For $1 as opposed to $2). Anyway, it comes down to philosophy as to what to spend in an attempt to reach a payoff you deem rewarding for your risk. The point I was trying to address was in terms of the contention that it is inappropriate to suggest singling to an Uncle Mo type in that setting Saturday.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You're right on the increment, because the will pays screen would have been for $2. So that takes the Mo will-pay to $100 and the Toby's to $2,000 (For $1 as opposed to $2). Anyway, it comes down to philosophy as to what to spend in an attempt to reach a payoff you deem rewarding for your risk. The point I was trying to address was in terms of the contention that it is inappropriate to suggest singling to an Uncle Mo type in that setting Saturday.

Most of what I learned from many here, and across the public handicappers nation wide was watch this unfold, and save your money. Many handicappers thought it was not a good bet, and I followed the suggested play from them.

[johnny pinwheel]

this is why you don't listen to public handicappers........uncle mo's race is the type i spread in everytime......do you want the pool? or do you want to share it with thousands of other people? those guys just care about win percentage and looking good to the public.......theres only a few that don't worry about ripping them up and thats their problem. or they have to say certain things for the venue they work at....the guy that hosts this site puts together good tickets (steve) watch how he does it.....heres a hint...the biggest Pick 3 scores come when horses like smarty jones, big brown, rachel and uncle mo lose....people should forget the envy talk and learn how to gamble....take a math class and learn how to take the biggest part of the pool......very few public handicappers even talk about this......THEY GIVE YOU THE 2-5 (1-9) SHOT.....good luck doing well in this game with that! instead of whining and envy talk you can be in line signing a huge win.........people give a crap about all the WRONG things......if uncle mo wins thats my saver...its more of a loss. when he loses...now its something worth cashing.....

[OTM Al]

This is an argument of preference. I singled Uncle Mo as well because I was trying to find my value elsewhere. I went against Ava K in the first leg as a heavy false favorite and also tried for a price with Laysh Laysh Laysh in the third leg on my "A" ticket because of his high level of success at a specilist distance. I bet all of $20, a $1 2x3x3x1 plus a $2 single ticket, which died when Laysh completely missed the break. I was however very happy to see that I would get a gross return of about $101 on the $1 ticket with a win by Uncle Mo. So I actually did both things you are talking about. I tossed a heavy favorite I considered false and went single on another heavy favorite. I wasn't a huge fan of Mo, but even still he looked to tower above the rest. Ava K however didn't even look the 3rd best horse to me.

I think these are the only two reasonable options when facing heavy favorites in a sequence. Either single them or toss them completely. Anything else it throwing away money. Which you do though is preference. Would you rather swing for the fences with a high chance of striking out, or go for a smaller, but much more likely return.

[blackthroatedwind]

Uncle Mo was 20:1 on the internet and 1:9 at the windows.

Now we have proof that the vast majority of internet prognosticators don't bet.

So unbelievably tiresome. The only reason internet bettors are blowing their horns is because Uncle Mo lost. When these results don't go their internet way we never hear a fukking peep. It's preposterous.

Betting is done at the windows.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

this is why you don't listen to public handicappers........uncle mo's race is the type i spread in everytime......do you want the pool? or do you want to share it with thousands of other people? those guys just care about win percentage and looking good to the public.......theres only a few that don't worry about ripping them up and thats their problem. or they have to say certain things for the venue they work at....the guy that hosts this site puts together good tickets (steve) watch how he does it.....heres a hint...the biggest Pick 3 scores come when horses like smarty jones, big brown, rachel and uncle mo lose....people should forget the envy talk and learn how to gamble....take a math class and learn how to take the biggest part of the pool......very few public handicappers even talk about this......THEY GIVE YOU THE 2-5 (1-9) SHOT.....good luck doing well in this game with that! instead of whining and envy talk you can be in line signing a huge win.........people give a crap about all the WRONG things......if uncle mo wins thats my saver...its more of a loss. when he loses...now its something worth cashing.....

Shut up already.

[Thunder Gulch]

Some really smarty folks showed up to tell us about it AFTER the race. After trolling the boards and Twitter, I think someone needs to audit the NYRA, because it sure seems as if Toby's Corner took the majority of the money.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Uncle Mo was 20:1 on the internet and 1:9 at the windows.

Now we have proof that the vast majority of internet prognosticators don't bet.

So unbelievably tiresome. The only reason internet bettors are blowing their horns is because Uncle Mo lost. When these results don't go their internet way we never hear a fukking peep. It's preposterous.

Betting is done at the windows.

Kinda like how if all the people who said thery were at Woodstock reall went, there'd have been 10 million people there. Clearly, EVERY person who used Toby posts on this board.

[Indian Charlie]

I had $5,000 to win on Toby's Corner in the Wood, but I feel really bad, cause I had a huge exacta with Toby's Corner on top of Uncle Mo.

I'm such a dickwad.

[randallscott35]

such a shame he didn't finish 4th for those moron bridgejumpers that xpressbet doesnt want

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Uncle Mo was 20:1 on the internet and 1:9 at the windows.

Now we have proof that the vast majority of internet prognosticators don't bet.

So unbelievably tiresome. The only reason internet bettors are blowing their horns is because Uncle Mo lost. When these results don't go their internet way we never hear a fukking peep. It's preposterous.

Betting is done at the windows.

Very well said! BTW...funny story. I was joining some buddies Saturday a little late when the horses were at the gate. I ran to the computer and asked the guys who they liked. They shouted back....Andy likes the 4...he's 60-1. For shiats and giggles I threw $2 wps. Unbelievable. Great call! Thanks for the extra cash.