Welcome to the Kentucky Derby, Shackleford

[blackthroatedwind]

I'm thrilled about Dialed In, but obviously DrugS is right that Shackleford ran the best race. Even if you think the track was kind to speed, take a look at where the other speeds finished.

Speaking of finishing, has Stay Thirsty crossed the wire yet?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm thrilled about Dialed In, but obviously DrugS is right that Shackleford ran the best race. Even if you think the track was kind to speed, take a look at where the other speeds finished.

Speaking of finishing, has Stay Thirsty crossed the wire yet?

At least he was in the field so that To Honor and Serve wasn't the biggest phony in the race.

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm thrilled about Dialed In, but obviously DrugS is right that Shackleford ran the best race. Even if you think the track was kind to speed, take a look at where the other speeds finished.

Speaking of finishing, has Stay Thirsty crossed the wire yet?

Stay Thirsty has until May 6th to cross the wire-$260,000 means already in

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Stay Thirsty has until May 6th to cross the wire-$260,000 means already in

In what?

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Stay Thirsty has until May 6th to cross the wire-$260,000 means already in

He's in, but if the owner goes into the race with the overwhelming favorite in Uncle Mo, you would hope he would realize Stay Thirsty has absolutely no shot, and point him somewhere...anywhere but that race.

That horse stinks.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

He's in, but if the owner goes into the race with the overwhelming favorite in Uncle Mo, you would hope he would realize Stay Thirsty has absolutely no shot, and point him somewhere...anywhere but that race.

That horse stinks.

Bank on Shakelford and Stay Thirsty both running in the Derby.

What I'm wondering is if To Honor and Serve will run. Same with Soldat. I'd actually bet no for both of them if someone gave me 2-1 odds against running.

[Hoist Her Flag]

From the articles and quotes looks like both Soldat and To Honor and Serve are going. Especially Sodat they sold part interest last month, no way you buy in for that kind of money and have the earnings and back out now.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Hoist Her Flag

From the articles and quotes looks like both Soldat and To Honor and Serve are going. Especially Sodat they sold part interest last month, no way you buy in for that kind of money and have the earnings and back out now.

I was really hoping both would run well today so that they'd take action in the Derby.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by justindew

I was really hoping both would run well today so that they'd take action in the Derby.

If they honestly used the Florida derby as a test to see if soldat can rate, then they shouldn't go at all. That's a million dollar race today and he didn't look interested in running one bit. I thought to honor and serve may have moved too soon, but it seemed like everyone was waiting for shackelford to start backing up.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by justindew

Bank on Shakelford and Stay Thirsty both running in the Derby.

What I'm wondering is if To Honor and Serve will run. Same with Soldat. I'd actually bet no for both of them if someone gave me 2-1 odds against running.

If THAS runs, I'd be surprised; I can't possibly see what Mott would see in his performance to think he has a prayer. The horse can't rate and he's, unfortunately, not that good. I would imagine Soldat would go.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Betsy

If THAS runs, I'd be surprised; I can't possibly see what Mott would see in his performance to think he has a prayer. The horse can't rate and he's, unfortunately, not that good. I would imagine Soldat would go.

The decision isn't all Mott's to make.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The decision isn't all Mott's to make.

True, but the way Charlotte Weber talked prior to the race, it sounded like she was going to leave the decision in Mott's hands. I finally read some quotes from Mott after the race - maybe I'm wrong, maybe he will send the horse. I hope not. It's not impossible that he develop into a nice horse later on - perhaps even one that will rate - but that's not happening before the Derby or any of the other TC races. Boy, I loved this horse right after he ran 2nd in his debut - I didn't count on him not developing or, frankly, speed crazy.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm thrilled about Dialed In, but obviously DrugS is right that Shackleford ran the best race. Even if you think the track was kind to speed, take a look at where the other speeds finished.

Speaking of finishing, has Stay Thirsty crossed the wire yet?

I see what you guys are saying and I was probably too quick to say Dialed In ran the best race. But the "other speeds" were To Honor and Serve and a sprinter trying two turns for the first time breaking from the outside. And the only horse who passed either of them was Dialed In.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

flashpoint= flash in the pan...met mile