Ramon Suspended

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Did not notice the incident, but the blame should go to Clement for assigning him the mount in the first place.

give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

I thought the same thing.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

Can you imagine if there had been pace in either ( or both ) of the World Cups Gio Ponti raced in? He would have won both races if there was a fair pace.

Sorry to rain on the parade of the board intelligentsia.

[randallscott35]

That's odd, he wasn't suspended because of a lack of pace in the race.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Can you imagine if there had been pace in either ( or both ) of the World Cups Gio Ponti raced in? He would have won both races if there was a fair pace.

Sorry to rain on the parade of the board intelligensi.

He would have been in the exacta each time at worst. Victoire Pisa ran a huge race on Saturday only because of that backstretch move that he used to go from last to first.

Bottom line is there was no shame in the races he has run over there, especially with no prep this year. Ramon being suspended because of the ride takes nothing away from the race he ran this year.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Bottom line is there was no shame in the races he has run over there, especially with no prep this year.

No Shame? No prep? That's shame enough. Clement handed Ramon a gun with no bullets. Shame,shame,shame.

Come on

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He would have been in the exacta each time at worst.

That was my thinking.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

That's some serious funny sh*t there.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by GPK

That's some serious funny sh*t there.

Each your heart out English Channel.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by GPK

That's some serious funny sh*t there.

He would toy with English Channel at any distance.....on a good to firm turf course. Especially at 8 or 9 furlongs...(9f being EC's best trip).

[GPK]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

He would toy with English Channel at any distance.....on a good to firm turf course. Especially at 8 or 9 furlongs...(9f being EC's best trip).

Sure he would

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

Loyal? it must be tough to drop out on some 25k claimers in NYRA to run in a 10million dollar race. His 5th place finish pay out is equal to winning a 500k race or in Ramon's case winning 15 claiming races.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Loyal? it must be tough to drop out on some 25k claimers in NYRA to run in a 10million dollar race. His 5th place finish pay out is equal to winning a 500k race or in Ramon's case winning 15 claiming races.

Ramon must be riding in a ton of claiming races to be the second leading money earning jockey thus far this year. It must be some trick to do that with all those claimers and not even be in the top five in number of starts. You do realize that Dominguez could ride at Gulfstream Park (or even your beloved California tracks) and get plenty of mounts if he wanted to but stays in NY to be with his family?

Do you even think before you type? Oh, I know, it is an east coast/west coast thing. Everything you put on this board is pure comedy, please keep us entertained.

Yeah but it's not like we're talking about Angel Cordero Jr.

He's basically a giant grizzly bear hibernating in a smelly cave. It's tough to defend that.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by pointman

Ramon must be riding in a ton of claiming races to be the second leading money earning jockey thus far this year. It must be some trick to do that with all those claimers and not even be in the top five in number of starts. You do realize that Dominguez could ride at Gulfstream Park (or even your beloved California tracks) and get plenty of mounts if he wanted to but stays in NY to be with his family?

Do you even think before you type? Oh, I know, it is an east coast/west coast thing. Everything you put on this board is pure comedy, please keep us entertained.

What significant race has he won this year? Just look at AQU standings and note the competition he is pounding. I really wish he would come to So Cal and go head to head with Rosario, Gomez, Bejarano, PVal, Gulfstream with Johnny V and Castellano, Leparoux, and Keeneland with the same and take his talents on the road but he is in a comfort zone and enjoys the money he is earning on claiming races. When I think of great jockeys , I think of Chris McCarron, Jerry Bailey, Pat Day, Laffit Pincay and Ramon does not come near that level of greatness. Please continue to exagerate...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

What significant race has he won this year? Just look at AQU standings and note the competition he is pounding. I really wish he would come to So Cal and go head to head with Rosario, Gomez, Bejarano, PVal, Gulfstream with Johnny V and Castellano, Leparoux, and Keeneland with the same and take his talents on the road but he is in a comfort zone and enjoys the money he is earning on claiming races. When I think of great jockeys , I think of Chris McCarron, Jerry Bailey, Pat Day, Laffit Pincay and Ramon does not come near that level of greatness. Please continue to exagerate...

He has won all but one of the NY riding titles over the last couple of years over most of the riders you named.

But don't let that interupt your non-stop stupidity.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

What significant race has he won this year? Just look at AQU standings and note the competition he is pounding. I really wish he would come to So Cal and go head to head with Rosario, Gomez, Bejarano, PVal, Gulfstream with Johnny V and Castellano, Leparoux, and Keeneland with the same and take his talents on the road but he is in a comfort zone and enjoys the money he is earning on claiming races. When I think of great jockeys , I think of Chris McCarron, Jerry Bailey, Pat Day, Laffit Pincay and Ramon does not come near that level of greatness. Please continue to exagerate...

Once again you manage to top yourself. I suppose he hasn't gone head to head with the toughest colonies in the U.S. when he rides at Belmont and Saratoga. I suppose that his 3rd in the Saratoga standings against the toughest riding colony in the country last year and winning the Saratoga title in 2009 doesn't demonstrate that he can handle himself in any riding colony. I assure you he doesn't get the mounts to place that way in Saratoga because he is a bad rider.

I don't have the time right now to look up what signifacant races he has won this year, but I assure you he will win plenty of Grade I's before the year is out. If you were paying any attention he has run in plenty of big stakes and held his own at Gulfstream this winter. He should be commended for not uprooting his family and riding through the sh.tty winter we have had here in New York so he can be with his family.

You really need to get over your California is the best racing in the country B.S. There is great racing all over the country, I enjoy racing in New York, California, Kentucy, Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana and plenty of other places throughout the year. You may want to watch Dominguez ride a little bit, you just might see that he is a terrific rider. Oh, and Aqueduct is not only a great track IMO to take in some racing, the betting over the winter is terrific, it has its chalky days as any track does, but you can profit damn well as many live longshots can be had.

He should be commended for not wearing the pants of the family? Ok.

The majority of derby contenders with northeast connections have traditionally been located in south Florida during the winter. His selfish wife needs to realize the odds of any of their kids making the kind of scratch and having the success of their father are extremely minimal and moving the kids south during the winter could actually be beneficial instead of detrimental.


He is going to always have the "what if" label because he refused to compete at the top level year round. Sorry if I'm not impressed that he beats punk a.ss Jose Valdivia Jr. in a 4 horse race. Boy that was an impressive win today.

[pointman]

I disagree Coach. I am admittedly not the best historian, but I believe that Cordero did it a number of winters and some other big jocks as well. He has earned more in purses at Aqueduct than the leading rider at Gulfstream this winter. Sure, the colony is tougher in Florida, but there is something to be said for a family guy that is focused on the game. Just think of what PVal could have been.