Breeders Cup should only be held at

I do not understand the anti-Gulfstream venom. Wasn't it about 100 degrees at Santa Anita in 2003?

[dellinger63]

yea and the Euros dominated turf. Then again it was the hottest year in history for the Froggies.

[pmayjr]

What about Del Mar, and I agree with Zaf... Woodbine would be a nice place too. **** your guys' opinions on Polytrack courses. Keneland does suck right now with the huge closing bias, but like Turfway it'll get tweaked to be more fair. I'll take it all back if adjustments are made and the bias still exists. But this is a "Guinea Pig" year for Keeneland just like it was at Turfway last year. The same for Woodbine and Holywood. They'll be making adjustments for a year or two after installation and races. I'm totally with you guys right now. The stuff blows. But I wanna be optimisitc, and at least give tracks a chance to try and get things more blanaced out there. Lash out at me if you want, but I'm gonna let time dictate my final opinion.

But I mean those places only as alternates as NY, CD, Arlington, and Insert one of the 3 Big So-Cal tracks for the next year. Then from there maybe mix in a Woodbine or Del Mar or Gulfstream or the 'Stizzy again.

[Charismatic1]

Arlington has to be used on a consistent basis in that rotation. It is generally a very fair race track. In '02, it was drying out which I believe made it the speed favoring surface it was that day. The Europeans love the turf course at Arlington (it's one-mile) as exemplified from their consistent trips over for Million Day. Most importantly, Chicago is a top 3 market in this country. The only problem is whether to push the Juvenile races to 9 furlongs or drop it down to a one-turn 8. For me personally, I like the fact that very FEW horses have a race over the surface. It can make it tougher to handicap, but as a fan I see that it levels the playing field. Practically 90% of the horses have to ship. Others have repeatedly said that Arlington is the nicest racing facility in the country as well.

The way I see it, if you're going to give it to New York horsemen every three years, you have to do the same for the California horsemen and give them the same advantage just as often. Not to mention, the weather is generally better in California than New York at that time of year. Don't let the '03 heat wave scare you off. The Euros don't mind; they only won 2.5 of 3 turf races last time including a clean sweep of the F&MT. So, it should be:

Churchill
New York
Arlington
California
"Wild Card" - Florida, Canada, Louisiana (you know Fairgrounds is making a bid soon to help "rebuild"), etc.
REPEAT CYCLE

-Ryan

[Hwjb]

There has been some mention of holding the Breeders' Cup in Europe every few years. I wouldn't be in support of that idea, especially with Arc day providing all that's needed nowadays, and on a proper turf course.
However I think calling the BC the "World Thoroughbred Championships" reeks a little bit of self grandiloquence. When you consider that 19 countries were represented at the Carnival in Dubai last season it seems a bit ridiculous to name the BC in these terms when I would imagine no more than 6 or 7 countries were represented by runners in 2005.

[timmgirvan]

I can understand the dislike of Cali tracks, but would like the opportunity to witness one in the future. No Europe-No way! Where ever it is held- I JUST DONT WANT IT TO RAIN! There...I feel better