Best opening 8f's run in the Ky Derby

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

What I'm getting at is that not all on the list of winners who had low first call pace figures had poor efforts when they ran back, although four were off the board.

I don't have Victory Gallop's first call Moss pace number - because he didn't win - but it would be in the high 30's to low 40's.

I hear what you're saying ... however ... the 11 Derby winners that ran a first call Moss Pace figure of 58 or higher accounted for 7 horses who won the Preakness next time out.

Of the four who failed to win the Preakness next time out ...

Go For Gin was 2nd beaten less than a length.

Thunder Gulch was also beaten less than a length

Barbaro broke down and Super Saver didn't do crap - but remember - he didn't beat a great Derby field. Ice Box was 2nd.

Basically - take Barbaro out - and the record is 7 wins out of 10 - with 2 near misses.