Is it over for the unions?

[Clip-Clop]

The nice thing is, and a few of the teachers will realize this now, the lack of collective bargaining leaves a spot open for individual bargaining. No longer will good teachers (a rare and amazing thing in this world) be lumped in with those that wound up teaching. They will be able to shine and be properly rewarded based on their merits and not those, or lack thereof, around them. Good employees want NOTHING to do with unions. Not anymore.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The nice thing is, and a few of the teachers will realize this now, the lack of collective bargaining leaves a spot open for individual bargaining. No longer will good teachers (a rare and amazing thing in this world) be lumped in with those that wound up teaching. They will be able to shine and be properly rewarded based on their merits and not those, or lack thereof, around them. Good employees want NOTHING to do with unions. Not anymore.

Wow, what an over simplification....and I reject the hypothesis that good teachers are rare. As a whole teachers are among the best that society has to offer.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Wow, what an over simplification....and I reject the hypothesis that good teachers are rare. As a whole teachers are among the best that society has to offer.

Good people for sure. I hold nothing personal against the group. I remember the good teachers from my education, of the many that I have had, very few stick out as good. Those that do are a rare breed. A great teacher is not common despite what people might want to believe. Greatness is not more common in a noble profession just because it is noble. It is an art.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Good people for sure. I hold nothing personal against the group. I remember the good teachers from my education, of the many that I have had, very few stick out as good. Those that do are a rare breed. A great teacher is not common despite what people might want to believe. Greatness is not more common in a noble profession just because it is noble. It is an art.

I disagree. Good and great teachers are the norm. Bad teachers are rare.

You have to hand it to the Republicans - they sure are good at building straw men and demons out of kindergarten teachers

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

I disagree. Good and great teachers are the norm. Bad teachers are rare.

You have to hand it to the Republicans - they sure are good at building straw men and demons out of kindergarten teachers

Bad schools are the norm in this country, period. Money does not make a school any better, ask Newark, NJ, worst and most expensive. Good teachers are not common, great teachers are very rare. It must be nice to have gone to a school that promotes that type of thinking, I did not, I doubt most Americans had that opportunity. I know where I come from, this is not the case at all. My Kindergarten teacher was excellent, by the way.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Bad schools are the norm in this country, period.

Strange belief. Have any stats to back that up?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Strange belief. Have any stats to back that up?

The paper.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_793185.html

[somerfrost]

We hear about bad schools, more political fodder but even the bad schools have wonderful teachers...many factors are involved, resources and parental involvement for example.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Bad schools are the norm in this country, period. Money does not make a school any better, ask Newark, NJ, worst and most expensive. Good teachers are not common, great teachers are very rare. It must be nice to have gone to a school that promotes that type of thinking, I did not, I doubt most Americans had that opportunity. I know where I come from, this is not the case at all. My Kindergarten teacher was excellent, by the way.

most teachers come from the bottom third of the scholastic charts.....you could look it up! Good and great teachers are burned out and dried up by the silly b.s. and gamesmanship they face from year 1.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

try it with the ibew..lights out