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Old 03-10-2011, 10:08 AM
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Whoever becomes the 1st call rider will have to settle for 7.5% instead of 10%.
He's doing this across the board?
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:10 AM
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He'll bully the tracks into giving him 5% more of the winners purse. What he needs is a beating.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:10 AM
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He's doing this across the board?
He figures that the agent isnt working for the calls, as 1st call rider he just names him on whatever spot he enters in anyway.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:11 AM
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He figures that the agent isnt working for the calls, as 1st call rider he just names him on whatever spot he enters in anyway.
For some reason I have a hard time believing he's doing this to guys like Gomez and Dominguez.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:14 AM
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For some reason I have a hard time believing he's doing this to guys like Gomez and Dominguez.
They arent first call riders like Bridgemohan or Meche before him. But he has 1st call riders at all the smaller tracks too. Pete Ferriola when he was leading trainer in NY used to make the bug riders ride for 1/2 when they rode for him. They needed the wins/exposure, he leveraged that need.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:16 AM
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For some reason I have a hard time believing he's doing this to guys like Gomez and Dominguez.
Maybe he has a valid idea. How much you think Bridge has cost Ass over the years with the way he rides? I bet you it's more than 2 1/2 percent.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:18 AM
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Maybe he has a valid idea. How much you think Bridge has cost Ass over the years with the way he rides? I bet you it's more than 2 1/2 percent.
The jockey is paying the % to someone either way.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:20 AM
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I would not be surprised if this isn't happening in other places either. I know or a fact that some of the bigger trainers are getting 10% back from the vets.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:26 AM
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The jockey is paying the % to someone either way.
Obviously it's not right, but really is there anything that the jocks could do about it? Are the jocks that close of a tight knit group (which I don't think they are) that they all could try to boycott and go on strike from riding for him? Realistically I know that would never happen cause some guys (especially lesser knows) would probably jump on the opportunity and do whatever is needed just to ride for a guy like Ass. Hell some guys would probably do it for less than the 7.5% just to get in the door.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:32 AM
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Obviously it's not right, but really is there anything that the jocks could do about it? Are the jocks that close of a tight knit group (which I don't think they are) that they all could try to boycott and go on strike from riding for him? Realistically I know that would never happen cause some guys (especially lesser knows) would probably jump on the opportunity and do whatever is needed just to ride for a guy like Ass. Hell some guys would probably do it for less than the 7.5% just to get in the door.
I don't have a problem with it really. In the end the jock makes almost the same as he may dip into his own % to give the agent something. You do get to ride a ton of live horses though you are committed to one guy which may hurt your other business. But a 2nd tier rider will rarely get a chance to make as much money or ride as many live horses. Of course you do have to be able to take an ass chewing to ride in that spot
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