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Old 03-09-2011, 03:39 AM
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Caracortado did tie the course record for 6f at Hollywood in his comeback last fall, I presume that's the reason.

That and they probably realize that can't compete with top class Euros at a mile or more.
Hollywood - Smallywood - whatever. The racing & course isn't up to par to what it is at Ascot.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:06 AM
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Hollywood - Smallywood - whatever. The racing & course isn't up to par to what it is at Ascot.
Which is why Cannonball, a NY Bred, almost won the Golden Jubilee two seasons ago.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:16 AM
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Since when are Euro sprinters all that?
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:32 AM
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Since when are Euro sprinters all that?
Since never.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:36 AM
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It varies. No one was beating Starspangledbanner last year but the year before the field was weak.

Chamberlain Bridge has a big shot in the race in Dubai, so it's not like our horses can't be competitive over there.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:53 AM
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Chamberlain Bridge has a big shot in the race in Dubai.
He has the feel of a horse I wouldn't trust over there.

Came up from the claiming ranks, has run very well in races here after dealing with physical issues that came up close to the race, having clockers from different regions come in and just trash his chances for a race in which he goes out and utterly dominates a few days later.

That to me feels like a horse who might let people down over there. Hard to forget when horses with similar issues in Lava Man and Miesque's Approval went over there and put in total non-efforts together - running like a couple of horses with flat tires.
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:35 AM
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He has the feel of a horse I wouldn't trust over there.

Came up from the claiming ranks, has run very well in races here after dealing with physical issues that came up close to the race, having clockers from different regions come in and just trash his chances for a race in which he goes out and utterly dominates a few days later.

That to me feels like a horse who might let people down over there. Hard to forget when horses with similar issues in Lava Man and Miesque's Approval went over there and put in total non-efforts together - running like a couple of horses with flat tires.
I understand what you're saying but Chamberlain Bridge hasn't been in for a tag since he was taken by his current owner in March 2008. His biggest issue could be not being able to use lasix but American based horses have done very well in Dubai and England, specifically sprinting, without it.

Lava Man probably would have lost in Arizona and Miesque's Approval was 3 steps past done when he went to Dubai, so I'm not sure if Chamberlain Bridge's current situation can be compared. Take a horse like The Usual QT last year, who was a confirmed bleeder and he went there, raced without lasix, and put forth the best effort an American horse ever has in the Dubai Duty Free. It's a daunting task no matter what but I'm glad they're giving it a try. Running 5/8ths for $1 million is hard to pass up when you have a horse like him.
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:06 AM
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Wouldn't European sprinters rank behind US, Aussie and possibly Asian sprinters?
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:29 AM
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Wouldn't European sprinters rank behind US, Aussie and possibly Asian sprinters?
In terms of what?

On dirt - it's a complete joke how superior American sprinters are to the rest of the world.

Turf sprinting was largely ignored here until very recently - but I'd bet we're probably better than Europe at that. Especially 2-year-old turf sprinting. In terms of producing horses who are fast as fucl< and precocious as fucl< ... no one can come close to America.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:34 AM
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Since when are Euro sprinters all that?
I was thinking the same thing, they probably won't face too much really. Getting win at Ascot would be more fun then getting a second (or off the board finish) against Goldikova, no?
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