social security

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When the top 5% 'the rich' pay for 54% over half of income tax collected I'd argue they are paying their fair share and then some.

Instead of quoting statistics how about forgetting the political sound bites for a second and looking at the effects on real folks, if you depend on SS for your entire income, not having a cost of living raise for two years coupled with rising Medicare costs has already effected you, making it hard to just exist. The last thing you need is further cuts/cost increases. On the other hand, if you have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars in yearly income, you can survive and prosper without social security. If you are rich, I get your opposition...it's called greed and I understand that but if not, why continue to drink the political kool-ade. Folks are so afraid that someone will "get something for nothing" that they are blinded to real need.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Instead of quoting statistics how about forgetting the political sound bites for a second and looking at the effects on real folks, if you depend on SS for your entire income, not having a cost of living raise for two years coupled with rising Medicare costs has already effected you, making it hard to just exist. The last thing you need is further cuts/cost increases. On the other hand, if you have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars in yearly income, you can survive and prosper without social security. If you are rich, I get your opposition...it's called greed and I understand that but if not, why continue to drink the political kool-ade. Folks are so afraid that someone will "get something for nothing" that they are blinded to real need.

When an argument is put forward that first highlights how much more should go to the poor, and then asserts that the rich don't "need" as much because they have so much left over, you can be sure that the principle espoused is a socialist one.

5% of people paying 54% of the bill isn't "fair"? Are you kidding? How much is enough???

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

When an argument is put forward that first highlights how much more should go to the poor, and then asserts that the rich don't "need" as much because they have so much left over, you can be sure that the principle espoused is a socialist one.

Joey, go read up on the definition of "socialism". It's not what you apparently think it is at all.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Instead of quoting statistics how about forgetting the political sound bites for a second and looking at the effects on real folks, if you depend on SS for your entire income, not having a cost of living raise for two years coupled with rising Medicare costs has already effected you, making it hard to just exist. The last thing you need is further cuts/cost increases. On the other hand, if you have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars in yearly income, you can survive and prosper without social security. If you are rich, I get your opposition...it's called greed and I understand that but if not, why continue to drink the political kool-ade. Folks are so afraid that someone will "get something for nothing" that they are blinded to real need.

How about addressing the real problem. That the unfunded commitment we have for future SS and Medicare obligations is in the $90 trillion dollar range. And why in the world did Obama cut the SS tax this year if the program is in trouble? Is it that spending our way out of bankruptcy theory again?

I can't do it. I have family in a retirement state.

Kill all people who own a Hall & Oates record and actually paid for a Kid Rock song on iTunes.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I can't do it. I have family in a retirement state.

Kill all people who own a Hall & Oates record and actually paid for a Kid Rock song on iTunes.

Oh Jesus!

[clyde]

You're tough to please.



Nuke Chicago.....how's that one?

[clyde]

I'll throw in the music people you mentioned.

Ok that's a deal. Any city that has a company/organization that pays Lovie Smith millions deserves to be wiped off the map.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I can't do it. I have family in a retirement state.

Kill all people who own a Hall & Oates record and actually paid for a Kid Rock song on iTunes.

that'll work!