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Old 03-07-2011, 09:39 AM
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I should hope the top 2YOs of a given year improve in subsequent starts.
The healthy ones should anyway.

A LOT of them don't. Especially with fillies.

You had a three year run where the champion 2yo fillies were Tempera, Storm Flag Flying, and Halfbridled. All of them were pretty awesome 2yo fillies whos form took a sharp nose dive.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:12 AM
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No sane person doubts that if Uncle Mo moves forward, all the other 3YOs are in major trouble. It's a complete mismatch. However, others moving forward doesn't increase the chances of Uncle Mo doing so....or staying sound.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:19 AM
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No sane person doubts that if Uncle Mo moves forward, all the other 3YOs are in major trouble. It's a complete mismatch. However, others moving forward doesn't increase the chances of Uncle Mo doing so....or staying sound.
I never said it did.

The whole point - and I know it was kind of a MOTO one - was "It gives you an idea of what should be expected of Uncle Mo and Jaycito on Saturday." ... if they are healthy.

I say that because there have been some questions and rumors surrounding the health of both horses.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:38 AM
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The finalists for the '2010 Todd Pletcher Profile in Equine Courage' award would have to be Quality Road, Life At Ten, and Malibu Prayer.

While the life was sucked out of them - at least they were the trio that stood up to his stuff all year and stayed sound enough to make the Breeders Cup.

QR and Malibu Prayer both ran about 60 Beyers in the BC - and Life At Ten ran the best of the trio because at least she had a visable excuse.

Pletcher had no other runners in the Distaff, Classic, Sprint, BC Turf, or BC Mile. Just those three. Quality Road last by a mile. Life At Ten and Malibu Prayer a long way behind everyone else in the Distaff.

They were certainly the stables warriors.

Devil May Care, Eskendreya, Super Saver, Discreetly Mine, Battle Plan, Understatement, etc etc etc all fell from the riggors.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:45 AM
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The finalists for the '2010 Todd Pletcher Profile in Equine/Handicapper Courage' award would have to be Quality Road, Life At Ten, and Malibu Prayer.
Cant forget all the $ burned on blind faith.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:46 AM
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As was pointed out, horses improve from 2 to 3. Not shocking.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:00 AM
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As was pointed out, horses improve from 2 to 3. Not shocking.
Point totally missed.

However ... here are some of the past BC Juvie winners...

'09: Vale of York
'08: Midshipman
'07: War Pass
'05: Stevie Wonderboy
'04: Wilko
'03: Action This Day
'02: Vindiacation (at least he never raced again)
'01: Johanesburgh
'00: Macho Uno (injury's kept him out till he lost an alw comeback at SAR)
'99: Anees
"98: Answer Lively
'97: Favorite Trick
'96: Boston Harbor

And that group looks like a stellar collection of improvers compared with the fillies.

Obviously - most of the ones above didn't improve because of physical issues. Some like Favorite Trick were just very precocious sprinters. A lot of them raced in poor 2-year-old crops.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:08 AM
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Cant forget all the $ burned on blind faith.
Pletcher's horses who star in the winter - and somehow survive injury - all went through withdrawls in the Breeders Cup last year.

People call Quality Road "a miler" .. he was already trailing Pleasant Prince after a mile in the BC Classic... and the jock hadn't yet even moved on PP.

The Quality Road who showed up that day wouldn't have been competitive with $15,000 claimers. Something was seriously wrong with him.
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Pletcher's horses who star in the winter - and somehow survive injury - all went through withdrawls in the Breeders Cup last year.

People call Quality Road "a miler" .. he was already trailing Pleasant Prince after a mile in the BC Classic... and the jock hadn't yet even moved on PP.

The Quality Road who showed up that day wouldn't have been competitive with $15,000 claimers. Something was seriously wrong with him.
He was not alone with the issues from that barn either. Pandemic that weekend.
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