3/5 (SA): Big Cap, Kilroe Mile, SA Oaks (G1's), Clocker's Corner

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

My call too!

I agree with you and the call for whatever it's worth.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I agree with you and the call for whatever it's worth.

You thought TC started that?

[Indian Charlie]

Did anyone else notice the jock on GOD going to the left handed whip and GOD suddenly flying out a few lanes?

Hory cow.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Did anyone else notice the jock on GOD going to the left handed whip and GOD suddenly flying out a few lanes?

Hory cow.

Yes!

[Sightseek]

Jeez.

Chantal goes to the whip behind, Game On Dude's rear swings out and it's ping pong into Setsuko.

[justindew]

Watch Twirling Candy's legs right before impact with Game On Dude. He moved towards Game On Dude, causing the impact. No doubt about it. Correct call.

[herkhorse]

Setsuko was the one f.ucked by this, but he had every chance to win and didn't.

[PatCummings]

Watch the harrow marks on the dirt and see Game On Dude's movement...that's right, you won't. He maintained a straight course.

[my miss storm cat]

I actually missed the Kilroe but am surprised no one mentioned this here (Sightseek added him to the angels list)...

RIP Lieve.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Watch the harrow marks on the dirt and see Game On Dude's movement...that's right, you won't. He maintained a straight course.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Did you look at the harrow marks? It was a line right down the center of the track - there was very little shifting from GoD, enough to stay up. If he comes down, I benefit more from the bridgejumpers. I thought it was the right call.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Watch the harrow marks on the dirt and see Game On Dude's movement...that's right, you won't. He maintained a straight course.

Are you serious? GOD maintained a straight course????????????

[Travis Stone]

I think the bouncing around was all planned to distract us from the truth of what the handicap division looks like this year.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by justindew

Watch Twirling Candy's legs right before impact with Game On Dude. He moved towards Game On Dude, causing the impact. No doubt about it. Correct call.

You are exactly right. Twirling Candy made slight contact with Sedsuko and moved towards Game on Dude before Chantal even hit Game on Dude the first time.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by GPK

You are exactly right. Twirling Candy made slight contact with Sedsuko and moved towards Game on Dude before Chantal even hit Game on Dude the first time.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You thought TC started that?

She came out a lil bit. A 10th of a second later, Candy came in. Because she had come out, there was now no room for him to come in. Therefore, there is contact. There are 3 ways this could have been avoided.

1)The bitch could of not made it tight coming out of the turn (but she did.)

2) She could of not come out in the stetch at all, but she did come out a lil bit. That's what happens when you whip left.

3) Candy could of not come in.

Now, in this case, I don't see how Baffert's excuse ( Candy was empty) is a reason to ignore the fact that Setsuko was fouled. The question is whether his horse was responsible for Setsuko being fouled by Tired Candy. Fact is that Setsuko got his nose in front, and couldn't hold it. In the judges mind, he had a decent shot to win it, and gave it up. Baffert is a very important trainer in SOCAL Racing. Mandella ain't gunna bitch like Baffert would have. Candy was tired, and hard to control. All these things are factors involved when human beings make this decision. To me, she was responsible for most of what happened, but not all of it. I do not think it was this easy call that some are saying it was. Fact is she is a pretty sloppy rider. That's why this happened. Bitch makes it tight. This would of also been a factor (for me.) If Baffert trained Setsuko, I think the girl would of been taken down. It is the type of call that lends itself to "outside factors" like the connections involved. Now, how many times have i said that Victor does not get along with the stewards in SOCAL? That didn't help. He and Nakatani aren't gunna get much help.