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Old 10-19-2006, 10:15 AM
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I wonder what field size would be like if there were no performance enhancing drugs whatsoever. I also wonder what the results would look like.

Believe it or not, there were people who didn't believe steroids were a problem in baseball ten years ago.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:17 AM
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I wonder what field size would be like if there were no performance enhancing drugs whatsoever. I also wonder what the results would look like.

Believe it or not, there were people who didn't believe steroids were a problem in baseball ten years ago.
You can't compare steroids with something that is 'questionable' to enhance performance, but I agree, steroids should be controlled. (Especially in the Auction Ring!)
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:28 AM
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You can't compare steroids with something that is 'questionable' to enhance performance, but I agree, steroids should be controlled. (Especially in the Auction Ring!)

It was an allusion to people's amazing ignorance about an obvious problem and not an argument relevent to specific drugs.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:19 AM
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I wonder what field size would be like if there were no performance enhancing drugs whatsoever. I also wonder what the results would look like.

Believe it or not, there were people who didn't believe steroids were a problem in baseball ten years ago.
BTW,
My biggest problem is with how this is portrayed by irresponsible journalists.
I can pull the articles written by one who loves to rail out and crash out against those who he deems villains or supertrainers. I can also pull atleast two articles the same guy has written about a friend of his who trains who has a list of postives who he gushes over.
And you know who the writer and trainer I'm talking about are.
Its not being covered responsibly, this problem that we have. And convincing people that a therapy drug for a cracked foot is the same as a shot of high test on race day is only hurting the problem.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:29 AM
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BTW,
My biggest problem is with how this is portrayed by irresponsible journalists.
I can pull the articles written by one who loves to rail out and crash out against those who he deems villains or supertrainers. I can also pull atleast two articles the same guy has written about a friend of his who trains who has a list of postives who he gushes over.
And you know who the writer and trainer I'm talking about are.
Its not being covered responsibly, this problem that we have. And convincing people that a therapy drug for a cracked foot is the same as a shot of high test on race day is only hurting the problem.
I don't find the issue to be specific.

The biggest problem is not irresponsible journalism. it is trainers using illegal performance enhancing medication and an industry that turns more than a blind eye to it. What you, or I or anyone, perceive as some journalistic bias does not change what is happening out there.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:38 AM
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I don't find the issue to be specific.

The biggest problem is not irresponsible journalism. it is trainers using illegal performance enhancing medication and an industry that turns more than a blind eye to it. What you, or I or anyone, perceive as some journalistic bias does not change what is happening out there.
Perceive? I think we perceive pretty well. And that guy is someone I respect greatly but who has ZERO credibility on that topic after that bs.

And yes the problem is drugs, no question. I agree 100%. But I really think that tracks are reacting to the journalistic frenzy by grabbing guys on small traces of therapy drugs instead of grabbing the real cheaters in order to mak a sacrifice to the journalists and people as if to say "See we got one!!"" yeah great, go grab a guy with a trace of a bronchiodilater, that will really clean this up. Can't you see whats going on? Do you really think that they grabbed 4 guys the last two years all on the same positive by cooincidence? Or was it because those 4 guys get blasted by journalists(who don't bash their buddies who have a list of positives already) and they felt like they had to nail them on something to calm the masses?
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:39 AM
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I don't find the issue to be specific.

The biggest problem is not irresponsible journalism. it is trainers using illegal performance enhancing medication and an industry that turns more than a blind eye to it. What you, or I or anyone, perceive as some journalistic bias does not change what is happening out there.

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I want them to catch guys for cheating who ARE cheating and for what they are CHEATING WITH!!! Not some trace amount of a therapeutic drug. Can't anyone see this doesn't solve the problem?
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:31 PM
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.....and he lost.....BAH!!!!

Side note!
Lets see they want to take my amatuer status.
I load up on Tylenol to take care of back pain. So they want to ban from playing?
Should I play my Golf Tournament still?
Hmm! History seems to favor me when I play a Tournament with a physical ailment. I always asked someone to hit me in the head standing next to me on his backswing with his driver thinking he could use off this pile of grass on the ground before we tee off.
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:10 AM
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Yawn...............

This game will be LOADED with drugs long after everyone on this forum is dead.

"Better living through chemistry"

As soon as theses imbeciles find a new test they'll be a new drug out there.
I knew that the Soviet Uniom Women's 70's and 80's team were quite influential!
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